How is foot determined for each song?

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This question always boggled me, I'm curious to know how the foot of a song is determined. Many songs seem to belong in a higher or lower foot. Like many people think Sakura should be a 9 foot and theres some other songs i can think of that i think would belong in a higher foot(D2R GRR!)..so how is the foot of a song determined?
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By whatever the hell konami says, really.
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mtwieg · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:28 pm Post subject:

eyebrowsoffire · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:32 pm Post subject:

What I do find interesting though is that Stepmania has a foot rating calculator, and a groove radar calculator. Do you think that konami uses a similar system? Pause and discuss.
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Fate · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:09 pm Post subject:

I picture a bunch of people in suits in a room around a large oval table, with at one end the president of the "foot raters" and at the other end a screen with steps where you see a guy playing the "yet unrated song". The guy playing the song is wearing a completely black suit, and sweating somewhat while keeping a completely businesslike face. The suits just stare and nod during the song, and at the end they vote on the foot rating. Well, thats what I see.
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mtwieg · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject:

Nightime · Trick Member Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Location: anywhere else

Most "difficulty calculators" either take into account how many steps there are, how fast you need to go, or how misdirectional it is; it's hard to get an honest meshed reading on all of the factors.

Plus, there's the inconsistant standards of what a level actually is; and the fact that many long-term players can pass 9's and some 10's just as easily as they'd pass a 7, so they think it should be lower-rated (HYPN0TIC CRISIS, SAKURA, etc.).

The Groove radar is a bit more accurate, and more consistant, though "chaos" seems loosely defined still, and again, it takes little insight into the misdirection of sets.

Slowpoke · Trick Member Joined: 28 Oct 2003

One thing the difficulty calculator can't do is assess how difficult the step sequences are. It can measure #steps and speed, but it doesn't know the difference between

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Tomo_kun · Trick Member Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Location: SE-WI.

My whole point is, is that DDR DOESN"T HAVE A CALCULATOR. That its *ALL* manual.

I knew that, I was trying to Proove a point.
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Slowpoke · Trick Member Joined: 28 Oct 2003

I think we all know that it doesn't, and we were referring to the one in Stepmania.

AK (Vanilla x Mint Mix) · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:46 pm Post subject:

justoneuncle · Trick Member Joined: 27 Aug 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY

It's probably as simple as the designer of the steps for a song assigns the foot rating for that song.
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DDRguyKAOS · Trick Member Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Location: Next up

Groove radars are not accurate, they are simply cosmetic representations of the varying types and consistancy of steps in the song (rather than the actual difficulty). It is there as a loose generalization to give you slightly more insight into a song than just "8" "9" or "10".

Accuracy of the step ratings isnt nearly as important as debugging, designing new interfaces, installing new features, advertising, and trying to meet deadlines, so Konami may not have the time and resources to have an oval table and a precise rating process ^^

However, kind of like spazzing BPM's that dont show you how fast the song goes, a misstaken rating (Witch Doctor ^^) can add a fun little shock value when you play it for the first time (or watching somebody else play it hoping its easier than holic ^^)
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[ES] GARYsurvivor · Trick Member Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood, CO

The groove radar can be misleading. Kakumei an heavy has a pretty small groove radar thing, and something like Paranoia Evolution has a huge radar comparatively, but it's still only an 8 footer. They have to get the foot ratings from opinions and such.