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Bean Trick Member
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0. Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:40 am Post subject: US DDR Extreme Corner Button Fix Thread |
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Very simple mod I came up with last night, shouldn't take more than 10 minutes. Saved me from taking the game back.
I feel bad for soft pad users, however. The only thing you can really do is email KOA and let them know of their mistake.
http://www.cobaltflux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3086
Edit: My apologies, looks like someone's already posted a fix and linked my version. Sorry! Lock/delete/whatever.... just as long as people can access the mod information easily. It saves a bunch of grief for CF users. _________________
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Mr. A Trick Member
Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Location: INTERNET |
1. Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:39 am Post subject: |
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WTF! I have FOUR corner buttons on a soft pad, size 13 shoes, playing on standard and heavy, and somehow I'm experiencing zero problems! Wierd... maybe it's just me.
Anyhoo, cool that there is a fix for CFers. |
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Reenee Trick Member
Joined: 21 Nov 2003
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GE0. Trick Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: Boston, MA |
3. Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Is there a way to do this on my Ignition 2.0 SOFT pad? _________________
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diddrstrait Trick Member
Joined: 01 Jan 2004
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4. Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:31 am Post subject: |
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- - ALPHA - - wrote: | WTF! I have FOUR corner buttons on a soft pad, size 13 shoes, playing on standard and heavy, and somehow I'm experiencing zero problems! Wierd... maybe it's just me.
Anyhoo, cool that there is a fix for CFers. |
you probably don't play flat footed, do you. |
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Shinmizu Staff Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Stuck in a Klein bottle |
5. Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Cutriss has put a 24 hour ban on Extreme threads and the rest of us are upholding that ban until he returns to lift it. _________________
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VxJasonxV Maniac Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Location: Castle Rock, CO |
6. Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Since this topic isn't full of whiners, you may have your thread back .
Any further solutions for Soft Pad users? _________________
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Dancing Dan Trick Member
Joined: 05 Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California |
7. Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Oo those corner fixes look great. Ill try them out on my CF. Shoudnt damage them tho right? AS for soft pad users......what is there really to do? I Gues open the damn thing up and modify some of the sensors? I really dont know... |
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Kenshinchan Basic Member
Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Location: Arizona |
8. Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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I guess the key to modding the soft mat would be to obstruct the holes in the foam between the two layers, which would involve cutting open the mat as per the foam replacement mod. My first impulse was to tape foam rubber or cardboard on top of the foam layer with holes in it, but you might be able to do as well by just taping over the holes in the foam. Either way, of course you'd have to leave a few holes open on the O button so you can stomp hard to move through the menus. I'm not sure if I'm feeling ambitious enough to try it out myself, though...certainly not tonight.
Does anyone know if an actual Konami mat registers as a controller in the game like Ultramix, or was that just a theory? |
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MirAge Trick Member
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Location: Wallingford, CT |
9. Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:07 am Post subject: |
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yea, im really glad they got a fix for the cf users. if i deciide to get extreme for us im definetly gonna use that guide _________________
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ChronoBasher Trick Member
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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10. Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:18 am Post subject: |
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but for the sake of argument, what if some day you wanted to use those arrows in gamplay...like solo mode or somthing on stepmania...PIU or somthing.
How would you get the tape off? Wouldn't it leave a sticky residue makiing it immpossible to use the buttons for gameplay? _________________
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Kenshinchan Basic Member
Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Location: Arizona |
11. Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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ChronoBasher wrote: | but for the sake of argument, what if some day you wanted to use those arrows in gamplay...like solo mode or somthing on stepmania...PIU or somthing.
How would you get the tape off? Wouldn't it leave a sticky residue makiing it immpossible to use the buttons for gameplay? |
Well, you wouldn't be able to just tape over the holes if you were going to ever take it off. But if you were really serious about a removable mod, you could put an inch-wide layer of packing tape in a square shape around each of the corner buttons, then tape the foam or cardboard to that tape, using more packing tape. When you take tape off of more packing tape it doesn't leave a sticky residue and wouldn't tear the foam either, so when you peeled the foam inserts off they'd leave your pad insides relatively OK (though you'd probably wind up taping over a few holes when you put down your packing tape frame). Or you might be able to do something with Velcro (might give your pad a weird feel) or a real frame that you'd slide the inserts into/out of (which would probably raise all the sides of each corner and not the middle when the inserts were removed, which would probably be dangerous ).
Or, you could do the 3/4 mod on each of the corners, so you could press down on the corners with more difficulty but not catch them accidentally (probably OK for solo mode, though I don't play it often enough to worry about it...but probably not for OK PIU ).
Or of course you could just do this mod on a cheap mat (since you'll probably have to tape it down to plywood anyway) and keep your good mat for play on the games that aren't obnoxious enough to omit dance play settings. It would have the added bonus of giving a bit of "arcade feel" to a cheap flat mat, with the raised corners. If I had some plywood, I think I might try it myself with my broken and useless MyMyBox pad, since I wouldn't have anything to lose. |
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VxJasonxV Maniac Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Location: Castle Rock, CO |
12. Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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This is officially the global Extreme USA corner button fix thread.
Why is it not in ExUSA/Soft Pad/Metal PAd threads?
Because I Said so .
No, seriously, because it's a little bit of everything, and a very specific topic.
So please, everyone pitch in solutions for anything and everything related to soft/hard/metal pads and wiring changes and such if you have them. _________________
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clubbinguy Trick Member
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Location: USA |
13. Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Mkay, since my "non-official" thread on this got locked, I will reiterate here (aka copy & paste):
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Ok, I'm no wiring guru, but maybe someone on here is.
I've read the "fixes" for the corner buttons for CF and RO pads. But they seem pretty crude and invasive (who wants to dissect their $300 pad?)
So, what about those inexpensive extender cables you can buy for your PS2 controllers. Many of us have them for pads with short cables anyhow. Couldn't they have "surgery" performed on them instead to disable the corner buttons..at least the rear corners? Then you could plug any pad into the extender and square/triangle would be dead and no playing dr. on the pad.
I dunno, is it possible? Does anyone know the anatomy of the wiring inside your basic PS2 controller cabling, and which wire(s) would knock out square & triangle and can maybe shed some light on this.
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sfdldude Trick Member
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14. Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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when people came up the theory about the "getting people to buy konami pads" came up... i must say, i have an official konami pad.... but the corner buttons still register during the game...
I think they just wanted to come up w/ an excuse and make the situation sound like konami did it on purpose.... or i have a really old/defective pad... or something...
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dlm Trick Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Location: Columbus, OH |
15. Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Clubbinguy... you wouldn't be able to use a simple hardware adapter (it'd have to actually read and filter the signals) that would just plug inline to the PS2. An adapter like that may induce latency (though if its *constant* latency, you can just adjust the timing window to match I suppose), and would likely cost some cash.
But it wouldn't be too difficult to chop your way into the control circuit of the actual pad and rip the corner button wires out. Though that would make song selection difficult.
Not having a PS2, I'm afraid it's really not worth the time for me personally to design a schematic, but if you knew which wires control the corner buttons, it wouldn't be too difficult to splice a little switch into them that would let you flip them on and off at will. Though making a setup like that pretty... or even very stable would be pretty tough. |
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claw Trick Member
Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Location: Brampton/Mississauga, Ontario |
16. Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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GeODdR wrote: | Is there a way to do this on my Ignition 2.0 SOFT pad? |
The hell? The plastic insert prevents you from hitting the corner buttons by sticking out. Unless you have like size 17 feet? I've never hit a corner button on my 2.0. |
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diddrstrait Trick Member
Joined: 01 Jan 2004
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17. Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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HyDrA wrote: | The hell? The plastic insert prevents you from hitting the corner buttons by sticking out. Unless you have like size 17 feet? I've never hit a corner button on my 2.0. |
Syncognition wrote: | - - ALPHA - - wrote: | WTF! I have FOUR corner buttons on a soft pad, size 13 shoes, playing on standard and heavy, and somehow I'm experiencing zero problems! Wierd... maybe it's just me.
Anyhoo, cool that there is a fix for CFers. |
you probably don't play flat footed, do you. |
quoted for emphasis |
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claw Trick Member
Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Location: Brampton/Mississauga, Ontario |
18. Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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mine are size 12, never hit the corner. |
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diddrstrait Trick Member
Joined: 01 Jan 2004
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19. Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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hey, do you guys think that if we complained about it enough to konami they might do a recall of the game? the way I see it that's the only true way to fix the corner button issue.
EDIT: and HyDrA, I wasn't the one who bolded the size 13, I was saying that it's a problem for players who flat foot and are used to the arcade pad. it's sad to see higher grades at the arcade than at home on a 7 footer :-\ |
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