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Robert H. Magnusson
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0. PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:13 pm    Post subject: Ddr Ds? Reply with quote

I was going to post this in the Console Versions forum, but the FAQ says not to discuss "dream" DDR games, just those that exist or are likely to come about. So...

Konami has created a few DDR games for the Game Boy Color, and more than the issues of graphics - what I've seen looks like a nice throwback to Beatmania - and control - an awkward snap-on device converts the controls to something appropriate for the game - is the audio, with simple MIDI arrangements of the songs. The fact that this is played with fingers instead of feet is slightly less of an issue for me, as it's meant to be a portable DDR, where fewer players can literally get up and dance.

We don't know much about Nintendo's Game Boy DS, a dual-screen portable, but what are the chances of a Dance Dance Revolution game coming out on it? The ideal configuration, at least to me, is that the upper screen would display the arrows against basically an updated 5th Mix style background of a dancer over fullscreen animations (not sure whether the DS would necessarily support full-motion video); the upper screen would display the dance pad (or ideally, pads) and perhaps could even be used as a touchscreen to play on. (Fingers only, duh.) Of course, I don't know whether the DS' touchscreen will be designed to recognize multiple simultaneous touches, so if the onscreen buttons merely light up when the DS' four-button layout is pushed, that would still be cool. Of course, the biggest issue is still the audio - would the cartridge based system be able to have acceptable versions of the songs? Enough of them? Would it be able to support Double play, or does the controller lock on left-right and up-down? Based on what we've seen at E3, on your experiences if any with DDR GBC, or your concepts, what do you think?...
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1. PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe that sound would be a huge issue, as I've heard a lot of GBA games with really great sound, and I'm sure it would only improve with the DS. The idea of dance pads on the touch screen is really cool, espcially for doubles. And the neat part is, if you play against a friend using whatever the DS equivalant of link cables are, you could play doubles head to head! Wouldn't that be cool? I think you're onto something here. Let's just pray that Nintendo and Konami pick it up...
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2. PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No... they wont be having ddr for nintendo. unless they want another ddr psone...

people say that gamecube has more memory than ps2. its true, BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!


ps2 uses dvd and gamecube doesnt.

besides, nintendo too cheap to have a dvd drive. thats why they dont even have much online games.(never seen any online).

They too busy making handheld games and dont even think about gaming online....

i think theres no room for ddr in any NINTENDO WORLD!!!!!!!!

Also,
Why they want to make that much handheld games?
Game Boy SP is enough!
If they want to make more money then stop making handheld!
they steal going to loss money if making them. no one going to buy a 300.00 for a small damn DS!

Heck i rather buy a import ps2 with that much........
Until then ......... NINTENDo needs to ....................... Grrrrrrrr i cant say it bc FAQ!
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3. PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xphoguytonyx wrote:
No... they wont be having ddr for nintendo. unless they want another ddr psone...

people say that gamecube has more memory than ps2. its true, BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!


ps2 uses dvd and gamecube doesnt.

besides, nintendo too cheap to have a dvd drive. thats why they dont even have much online games.(never seen any online).

They too busy making handheld games and dont even think about gaming online....

i think theres no room for ddr in any NINTENDO WORLD!!!!!!!!

Also,
Why they want to make that much handheld games?
Game Boy SP is enough!
If they want to make more money then stop making handheld!
they steal going to loss money if making them. no one going to buy a 300.00 for a small damn DS!

Heck i rather buy a import ps2 with that much........
Until then ......... NINTENDo needs to ....................... Grrrrrrrr i cant say it bc FAQ!


Um, no. There is already DDR for the Nintendo 64 and Gameboy Color.

GC does have more memory than the PS2.

Gamecube does use DVD.

Gamecube has several on-line titles (i.e. Kirby's racing game).

WTF does on-line gaming have to do with hand-held DDR? You're proving the point that DDR should be for the DS with this statement.

Again, there is already DDR for Nintendo.

Why are you defending Sony if their PSP is going to be just as much or more than the DS? I really don't understand you.


Though, if DDR is going to be coming out portably again, it will 99% likely be on the PSP. I might have to get my hands on one o' them if it does.
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4. PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say it really depends on the success of Jungle Beat, which is getting a great reception by at least the critics so far @ E3. I think that's Nintendo testing the waters on music games a bit...

If that game does well, I think there's a very good chance we'll see some kind of beat/music game on a Nintendo portable system.

But personally, I don't think it will be DDR or anything Bemani... probably something new from Nintendo.
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5. PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When did this happen!!?? I ve never seen a gbc DDR game. Does it have MAX 300 on it? That would be awesome thumb.gif left.gif down.gif up.gif right.gif
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6. PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xphoguytonyx wrote:

ps2 uses dvd and gamecube doesnt.

besides, nintendo too cheap to have a dvd drive. thats why they dont even have much online games.(never seen any online).

They too busy making handheld games and dont even think about gaming online....

Why they want to make that much handheld games?
Game Boy SP is enough!
If they want to make more money then stop making handheld!
they steal going to loss money if making them. no one going to buy a 300.00 for a small damn DS!


Your ignorance sickens me. disturb.gif
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7. PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert- DDR on the DS would work a lot better than on GBC, I'll say that, especially with the setups you envisioned. I think soundwise, it's not really an issue. According to preliminary tech specs, the Nintendo DS has 16-channel sound hardware, only 8 channels less than the Playstation. Also, the media, whatever it happens to be, (carts, miniature discs, flash RAM sticks, something else) can be up to a gigabit in size. That's 1 billion bits, or 128 megabytes. Plenty of room for songs and graphics. I wouldn't say they'd be CD quality, but they'd probably be light years ahead of the NES-like versions of Boom Boom Dollar, Butterfly, Silent Hill, etc found on DDR GBC.

The plausibility of it actually happening is another issue entirely. For some reason, Nintendo's systems have never been very big on Bemani games in general. N64 had two Disney-themed DDR games, GBC had Beatmania, DDR, and Pop'n Music, and that's about it. In all fairness, though, Pop'n Music and Beatmania GBC are actually pretty cool, especially Pop'N Music Animelo and Beatmania GB Gacchamix 2. They used the sound to the fullest extent to make catchy tunes that you can play along to quite well, and the anime themes in Pop'n Music are instantly recognizable if you've ever heard the song before. Nintendo has been changing a bit, though. With Jungle Beat and Donkey Konga lined up for release, as skie said they seem to be testing the waters with music games. So it could happen, but it's hard to judge at this point.

MAXANOiA- The last DDR GBC game came out about 3 years ago. Max 300? Sorry, nope. riiight.gif The DDR GBC games were based off of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Mix. The fastest song you'll find on any of 'em is probably Trip Machine Climax. =P
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8. PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xphoguytonyx wrote:
No... they wont be having ddr for nintendo. unless they want another ddr psone...

people say that gamecube has more memory than ps2. its true, BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!


ps2 uses dvd and gamecube doesnt.

besides, nintendo too cheap to have a dvd drive. thats why they dont even have much online games.(never seen any online).

They too busy making handheld games and dont even think about gaming online....

i think theres no room for ddr in any NINTENDO WORLD!!!!!!!!

Also,
Why they want to make that much handheld games?
Game Boy SP is enough!
If they want to make more money then stop making handheld!
they steal going to loss money if making them. no one going to buy a 300.00 for a small damn DS!

Heck i rather buy a import ps2 with that much........
Until then ......... NINTENDo needs to ....................... Grrrrrrrr i cant say it bc FAQ!


Try and think about what you just typed.
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9. PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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xphoguytonyx wrote:
No... they wont be having ddr for nintendo. unless they want another ddr psone...

people say that gamecube has more memory than ps2. its true, BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!


ps2 uses dvd and gamecube doesnt.

besides, nintendo too cheap to have a dvd drive. thats why they dont even have much online games.(never seen any online).

They too busy making handheld games and dont even think about gaming online....

i think theres no room for ddr in any NINTENDO WORLD!!!!!!!!

Also,
Why they want to make that much handheld games?
Game Boy SP is enough!
If they want to make more money then stop making handheld!
they steal going to loss money if making them. no one going to buy a 300.00 for a small damn DS!

Heck i rather buy a import ps2 with that much........
Until then ......... NINTENDo needs to ....................... Grrrrrrrr i cant say it bc FAQ!


Try and think about what you just typed.


First he has to think.


DDR was for N64, and even those little Bemani Pocket games too. Such as the Mini Beatmania handhelds, GF handhelds, and the PPP handhelds, those are dedicated little....Tiger Toys (basically) that play ring tones that you tap Bemani like controllers to the beat. Other than that, Bemani, DDR and any Music game in general wont usually (I say here USUALLY) go to handheld due to the low bit rate, but however, the GBA can support up to (i think) 22 Hrz or about audible for vocals, and I've seen a DDR GBA game in the works by a third party maker (name withheld) and that could hit the DDR world and change things up a little bit. But DDR for the GBA/GBC isnt the same wihout a dance pad,...unless you hooked a dance pad to the GBA itself.

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10. PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't that just rock, though?

Maybe a tiny little foldable soft pad could work for portable DDR. Wireless technology negates the need for troublesome wires. A collapsible hard pad could work, too, even one that's just 5 pads where one could fold onto another or directly into the center like a drawer. You'd only need a small amount of metal and a lot of high-strength plastic. I'd definitely use it on long trips.
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11. PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could probably do it if they had a pad that looked up to the link port/infrared (not sure about infrared). Although they probably would see no point as GB is to be played when you're on the go (like in a car or walking around) and I can't imagine playing ddr with your feet while you're in the car. Also a pad would require you to hold the GB while playing, something a lot of people aren't used to. If you ahve to hold osmething, it's harder to bar rape eh?
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