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iarespacemonkey Trick Member
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0. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:32 am Post subject: new beanami!!! |
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I think we all want to see more benami in the US besides DDR and other games that can't be found in most places. I think the best thing konami could do is design a completley new benami aimed at the american audience. As it now stands, random people who walk into an arcade aren't very likely to play a game like beatmania (or DDR for that matter). If they released a whole new benami game that appears "cooler" to the common arcade goer and advertise just a little bit I think it would get a lot more people into benami and then maybe they could bring others over, like beatmania, and actually make some money. This is just a my opinion. Comments? _________________
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1. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:04 am Post subject: Re: new beanami!!! |
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iarespacemonkey wrote: | If they released a whole new benami game that appears "cooler" to the common arcade goer and advertise just a little bit |
Define "cooler". _________________
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hooded__paladin Trick Member
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2. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, there is no US Konami Coin-Op division anymore. If it was still around, they MIGHT make a new BE-MA-NI (spelling is good, ya know). They did this for consoles with Karaoke Revolution (Okay, okay, it's also in Japan, but the American version is much better.)
I also find it doubtful that something like Beatmania will be brought to US consoles. There's no way most US consumers will spend $150 to play a game they've never tried before. |
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Rychan Contributor
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3. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:08 am Post subject: |
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hooded__paladin wrote: | I also find it doubtful that something like Beatmania will be brought to US consoles. There's no way most US consumers will spend $150 to play a game they've never tried before. | Maybe not, but those of us that have the import ones I'm sure have shown friends and got them interested in it too, perhaps friends that don't have the means of importing everything and modding their system. I think that would be how it would start if they brought Beatmania over.
For me, it would be like DDR that has been released here, I don't own any of them. My entire collection is imports because my system is too. _________________
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Syxx Trick Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Location: Chicagoland |
4. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Well if everyone is importing whole actually wants this poopy, then what insentive does Konami have to bring the game over?
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Besides... most people copy these games anyway. _________________
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Catastrophe Trick Member
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5. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:59 am Post subject: New Bemani |
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Benami? Beanami? Its B-E-M-A-N-I, like its pronounced!
I've thought about this too but specifically for Beatmania. In Japan Beatmania was a 5-key game that was so successful that they made a sequel series rather than just more sequels in the BM series. Obviously, those games were BMII(DX) and BMIII. BMII(DX) then soaked up all of BMs popularity and the other two versions (I and III) were put to rest.
Now, suppose Konami did want to port Beatmania to North America. How would they do that? BM's progress in Japan was completely dependant on their fans. The reason IIDX is so damn hard is because their players are just that good after years of practice and KOJ needs to make the game that hard out of nessessity. But if Konami decides to bring 5 key over here people who know what Beatmania is will surely complain that its out of date. Interesting problem. (I've been thinking about that too.)
P.S. Pirating Bemani games is especially uncool. |
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Rychan Contributor
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6. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Syxx wrote: | Well if everyone is importing whole actually wants this poopy, then what insentive does Konami have to bring the game over?
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Besides... most people copy these games anyway. | Maybe there are those out there that don't want to modify their systems or don't know that the option is out there. I know plenty of people that enjoy the game that have PS2s that aren't modified and/or have no intention of doing such to their systems.
Most people is not everyone, some people actually do things legit. _________________
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Syxx Trick Member
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7. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Very few people are into these games it seems... check out www.bringmorebemani.com , they barely have 900 signatures.
And even if that is a small representation of the number of people who are interested in these types of games there's still not enough.
Konami brought over beatmania already... and called it Hiphopmania Complete Mix 2. Don't be surprised if you've never heard of it because aparently it didn't do very well.
These are niche games and even if they are brought the U.S., they will still be relatively expensive even without "modding" your PS2. Most bemani is on the PS1 anyway, and you can get one of those for 30 bucks and an easy to install chip for 10 bucks so there's no excuse there.
Also, sorry for the reality check but there are many many many people out there who copy bemani games. Why should Konami bring over these games just so a handful of people will buy them? Seems like a waste of time and money to me.
Oh, and I know what that the word "most" still leaves "some" left. =P _________________
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iarespacemonkey Trick Member
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8. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry about the spelling error (I did do it at 6:30 this morning). I just think games like beatmania don't appeal to the masses (as of now), but I do see plenty of new people trying DDR at the arcades. I just think a BEMANI that was built for the american audience and was made so that it would be fun for people who have no experience playing bemani. If some random person walks into an arcade and sees a pop'n music machine what are they going to think? They'll probably say "wow that looks like the dumbest game I've ever seen." It may change their mind to watch someone play, but this person still probably wouldn't play. Even if Konami isn't going to make any more games, then I think its a perfect opportunity for an american company to jump in and design something that just looks more appealing to people in the U.S. I guess all I'm really asking for is a game like beatmania that has more beginner level stuff (and maybe less buttons) and was designed by people here in the U.S. for people here in the U.S. _________________
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Syxx Trick Member
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9. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah well... TnT is comin over... we'll see how that one does. _________________
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Andy the happy mod-man Trick Member
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10. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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hooded__paladin wrote: | Unfortunately, there is no US Konami Coin-Op division anymore. If it was still around, they MIGHT make a new BE-MA-NI (spelling is good, ya know). They did this for consoles with Karaoke Revolution (Okay, okay, it's also in Japan, but the American version is much better.) |
Play-wise, yes, the US version of K-rev is much better because in the Japanese version, the game doesn't judge you. In terms of songs? Meh, I'll pass.
hooded__paladin wrote: | I also find it doubtful that something like Beatmania will be brought to US consoles. There's no way most US consumers will spend $150 to play a game they've never tried before. |
Uh, that $150 price is only for importing. If Konami brought IIDX over here, the price would more than likely be 40 or 50, closer to what the price is in Japan. The same would go for the games. _________________
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Tekked Trick Member
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11. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I'm just suprised that a game involving a Taiko drum, which the average American has never heard of before, is being released instead of a game involving a drum, guitar, or DJ turntable. If a game about a Japanese drum can be released in America, why not a game that was released with instruments Americans are familiar with (and actually like to play) that contain mostly American songs anyway? Guitar Freaks and Drummania could have incredible popularity over here. I have the game and my friends think its cool, though pretty hard. All Konami would need to do to get a fanbase is release an American arcade and home version, ease the difficulty a bit to get new players into them, make everything widely available, and watch it go. Profits galore. _________________
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hooded__paladin Trick Member
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12. Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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You have to buy the controller, too. That's what makes it $150. Unless you like playing on a Dualshock, but no one does.
Rychan wrote: | hooded__paladin wrote: | I also find it doubtful that something like Beatmania will be brought to US consoles. There's no way most US consumers will spend $150 to play a game they've never tried before. | Maybe not, but those of us that have the import ones I'm sure have shown friends and got them interested in it too, perhaps friends that don't have the means of importing everything and modding their system. I think that would be how it would start if they brought Beatmania over. |
Unfortunately, there're very few people that know what it is. Yes, we have showed our friends, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were less than 50,000 people in the US that could tell you what Beatmania IIDX is. |
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Larrikin Contributor
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13. Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:52 am Post subject: |
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hooded__paladin wrote: | You have to buy the controller, too. That's what makes it $150. Unless you like playing on a Dualshock, but no one does |
It would be more like 80-100 for a game + controller bundle. Youre paying for import cost on the controller to you kno. _________________
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hooded__paladin Trick Member
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14. Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:52 am Post subject: |
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it's available for (the equivalent of) $50 in Japan? ARGH importing sucks. |
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XENONTASY Trick Member
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15. Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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So what about HipHop mania
don't be mad at me I was just asking |
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16. Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | So what about HipHop mania |
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Hiphop mania got "SOME" attention, but it never did really well......
1)Title sucks "HIPHOP" when they're like only 4 or 5 songs that are hip-hop and the rest techno, dance, eurobeat, etc., etc.
2) License issues with Complete mix 2, which meant all Dancemania songs + All pro were cut from the US Verison. |
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fighter965 Trick Member
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17. Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't Konami also release a U.S. Version of Pop n' Music? |
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Larrikin Contributor
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18. Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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fighter965 wrote: | Didn't Konami also release a U.S. Version of Pop n' Music? |
They did location test, but it didn't do well. _________________
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19. Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Tekked wrote: | Personally, I'm just suprised that a game involving a Taiko drum, which the average American has never heard of before, is being released instead of a game involving a drum, guitar, or DJ turntable. If a game about a Japanese drum can be released in America, why not a game that was released with instruments Americans are familiar with (and actually like to play) that contain mostly American songs anyway? Guitar Freaks and Drummania could have incredible popularity over here. I have the game and my friends think its cool, though pretty hard. All Konami would need to do to get a fanbase is release an American arcade and home version, ease the difficulty a bit to get new players into them, make everything widely available, and watch it go. Profits galore. |
Because Americans will try weird stuff.
But really, BMB needs more signatures to really do anything...like 10,000... _________________
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