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0. PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:19 pm    Post subject: DDR to PUMP Reply with quote

at my six flags, the only dance machine there is pump, i HATE PUMPS GUTS, they took out 4 ddr ex to put in a pump, i was pissed. but i may as well make the best and get good at pump. i got on it and it felt wierd. i put it on hard (i play difficult catas and 10s on ddr, how hard could it be) well i was flailing and stepping on metal where ddr panels should be. and well it sucked. anyone make this transition?
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1. PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's good that your making the best of it but for christs sake quit with the pump bashing. The game is just as good as DDR and more challenging. At least give a decent reasonas to why you don't like it.

And to answer your question, approach like a different game. Start off on the easy mode songs and work your way up. It won't take long if you've played DDR for a while but you still need to work your way up. You'll find that the game is a refreshing change from DDR and that it can be just as much and if not more fun.
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2. PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's stuff on Pump it Up that would easily be rated a 12 or higher on DDR. Take a look at Slam on Crazy sometime.

http://www.pumpxtreme.net/images/steps/slam_crazy.gif
Now imagine playing that at 131.99 BPM. Yeah, there are 3 panel steps in that song.

Oh, and Double on Pump it Up is WAY more fun than on DDR. The panel layout seems much less awkward.
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3. PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a Pump player that picked up DDR on the side, and I've gotten several DDR players into Pump. I've noticed its easier to go from pump to ddr than the other way around, mainly because pump utilizes more of its difficulty potential than DDR does.
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4. PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a Pump player that picked up DDR on the side, and I've gotten several DDR players into Pump. I've noticed its easier to go from pump to ddr than the other way around, mainly because pump utilizes more of its difficulty potential than DDR does.
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5. PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the transition isn't that bad from ddr to piu. I just tried piu for the first time the other day in about a year(never really played it too much before then either) and I did alright on it. I was able to pass things like Mr. Larpus crazy, beethoven virus crazy, extravaganza crazy, dr. m crazy and some other songs that i dont know the name of, on my first try on it ever(A's on all except for beethoven which was a B). I failed winter crazy(right before the end), but that was just because my legs were tired from like 4hrs of ddr playing. laugh.gif

It will definately take some work for me to pass Slam crazy though. I didn't last too long on that one laugh.gif , as i still need to get used to the different positions of the arrows on piu compared to ddr.

Doubles is a different story. Its much much harder for me than ddr on doubles. I can pass all the 10 footers on ddr on doubles, but since the layout of the pad is different on piu i barely managed to pass some doubles songs like dr.m and winter. I tried Mr. Larpus doubles, but failed miserabley. laugh.gif
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6. PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shadowdance wrote:
And to answer your question, approach like a different game. Start off on the easy mode songs and work your way up. It won't take long if you've played DDR for a while but you still need to work your way up.


I agree with shawdowdance. It is a new game and it takes practice to get good, just like DDR. I tried PIU for the first time last week and it was different. It took time to adjust but it after that it was cool.
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7. PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it does take a little time. I spent maybe a casual 4 games in easy mode before I worked my way up into hard in crazy. One thing to note for a newb PIU player is the leveling system is really screwy. Usually the way it works is the harder songs from the difficulty before are about medium in the next one up. Just because is rated 3 in hard mode doesn't mean its the as a 3 in easy mode. Especially watch out in crazy mode where almost every song is misleveled, example: Extravaganza on crazy is rated a 4 while Maria is rated a 6. Anyone who has beaten both those songs can telly ou that Extravaganza is much more difficult than Maria.

Anyway, enough of my babling, just keep working at it and you'll have a great and challenging time with it.
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8. PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kortsu wrote:
I'm a Pump player that picked up DDR on the side, and I've gotten several DDR players into Pump. I've noticed its easier to go from pump to ddr than the other way around, mainly because pump utilizes more of its difficulty potential than DDR does.


The same with me, I started with PIU, but some of my friends liked going to a place where DDR is, so I started playing that, but I do love playing Pump every chance I get. I love it when odd places get dancing machines, it makes you look like the dancing hero in a minute!!! Oh, and PIU doubles is a whole lot more fun than DDR doubles, the steps are better also. In PIU there is no need to run across the panels and break your feet. Almost time to play MAX2 tommorrow and break my toes off, that's another thing, Pump costs no extra to play doubles, Konami are you reading this!!?!?
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mainly because pump utilizes more of its difficulty potential than DDR does.


Funny, I always hear the complete opposite of that. The only reason I could imagine that is because in pump you need to use yourhands a lot for the harder songs, which is really lame, because break dancing to some of those songs doesnt make any sense at all, and it doenst look that great either.
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10. PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: DDR to PUMP Reply with quote

DDRkrazy wrote:
i put it on hard (i play difficult catas and 10s on ddr, how hard could it be) well i was flailing and stepping on metal where ddr panels should be. and well it sucked. anyone make this transition?


Yes, I made that transition. And I had the same experience you did. My first problem was stepping on the metal and being all off balance. Play it on easy until you get used to where the panels are. Eventually, it will just click and it will become second nature to you.

Another important early skill to learn is the jumping. Pump frequently makes you jump from the front to th eback repeatedly. I struggled at that until I learned to keep my balance forawrd when I jumped back and vice versa.

Once I could do all the Easy songs. I went to Hard. I didn't do very good at first because I couldn't read the arrows anymore. Then I discovered the speed code. Instantly on that very day, I was able to get A's and S's on most of the Hard songs (except the fast ones - which I still have trouble passing even now). I can do some of the Crazy ones up until about Level 4...

Hope this helps your transition. Pump is a fun game as is DDR.
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11. PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shadowdance wrote:
Yeah, it does take a little time. I spent maybe a casual 4 games in easy mode before I worked my way up into hard in crazy. One thing to note for a newb PIU player is the leveling system is really screwy. Usually the way it works is the harder songs from the difficulty before are about medium in the next one up. Just because is rated 3 in hard mode doesn't mean its the as a 3 in easy mode. Especially watch out in crazy mode where almost every song is misleveled, example: Extravaganza on crazy is rated a 4 while Maria is rated a 6. Anyone who has beaten both those songs can telly ou that Extravaganza is much more difficult than Maria.

Anyway, enough of my babling, just keep working at it and you'll have a great and challenging time with it.

You think that's screwy?! Try Loner on CRAZY, it's Level is 1!
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12. PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't like piu. I'm great at ddr, but at dorney park I played a couple games of piu and I pulled something. It makes you spread your legs at a dangerous length and then jump. It's just not right, doing down left/up right, it's not right. I should sue, I couldn't walk right for a week.
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13. PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too made the DDR to PIU transition. Only when I did I didn't whine about the diagonal set up. I just gave it a chance. Played more than once, and sure enough I liked it.

Don't bash PIU. PIU and DDR are equal. Even though they have different song lists and arrow placements they are all basically the same game.
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Pump it Up beats the pants off of DDR graphically, but DDR usually wins on features and quantity of songs. But don't even try to tell me that Zzanga from Pump it Up Premiere 2 isn't the best damned song that's ever been in either series.
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15. PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made the switch by downloading the official pump PC game (for testing purposes only E13.gif) and using that to learn the songs, timing and ability to read pump arrows (playing on keyboard). Then when I went to the arcade I just spent about a fiver (5 credits) playing normal and hard to pick up the movement. Now I play high end crazy and am getting B's on most songs.
Bar rape like hell on pump though E15.gif
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16. PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pump is cool but once u have learned ddr doubles and try to do pump doubles its hard crossing over
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17. PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, the transition from Pump to DDR wasnt really that hard. At first, understanding whre to step was difficult, but after a month of play, l was already FCing 5 point(or whatever theyre called) songs. I consider Pump a much harder game, because taking on most 1/8th chains can be hell, like Mr. Larpus on Crazy. Also, langind 3 steps at one time is pretty damn hard.
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wassup again... im the author of this thread and i went back to that very six flags and i saw a guy doing songs equivalent to 7-9 footers on ddr. so for fun to maybe get allitle better i ask to shadow him (so i didnt have to waste my money and fail. plus there was already a crowd of basicly everyone in the arcade wrapped around the machine. with a few excuse me`s i made my way up and it happened to be the manager of the arcade playing (he was my age: 15 or 16) and i asked and he sayd sure no prob. so we started a hard level song i didnt know and somethin clicked in my head and boom i didnt miss a step except for a few jumps. and before i struggle on easy mode. i dont know what happend but i got such a rush simmilar to when i started playing ddr. and now

I LOVE PUMP IT UP!!!!!

im begging my mom to take me back so i can ride coastas and play some pump. could anybody give me some easy difficult songs that are cool that i could play next time? some that arent too hard but arent extremly easy. i like streams and few jumps. thanks for the help guys


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H. Strawberry Switchblade wrote:
You think that's screwy?! Try Loner on CRAZY, it's Level is 1!


That is only on Prex.

On Prex 2 though, it is a Level 8.
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