Playing in drag/intolerant managers kicking us out (Video!)

[Crono]

The video really speaks for itself.

I'm the guy behind the camera, and the guy cross-dressing is one of my friends. This was originally meant to be a video response to a (female) friend of ours playing in a skirt, but the fact that the managers overreacted over it made it so much better.
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I don't know what the rules are in Canada regarding business practice, but in the US, people can reserve the right to refuse service to anyone they please (even if it does seem discriminatory).

The sad thing though is that your friend wasn't doing anything wrong. I have a problem with how the management handled that situation, and if I lived closer, I would want a word with them. Since I don't know what your rights are there though, I can't establish if you have a case against them.

[Crono]

I'm not sure that it is actually legal to refuse someone service at a business, because, say, they are black, is it? That would seem very strange.

In Canada we have a constitution of rights and freedoms that would probably protect these sorts of rights, however the way that it applies is more towards legislation than citizens and businesses on an individual basis. Though, we do have laws against hate crimes/inciting hate in Canada, which tend to make things a little more strict than in the US, but I don't think this would at all qualify as anything under hate crimes. (Hate crimes would be something like if you said "I think all the Jews should die" or something like that, you have to be trying to incite people to hate a group of people, so I don't really think this is anywhere in that jurisdiction.)

Still, there is a less official court that matters perhaps even more to most people: the court of public opinion.
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[ICNH]

N8, I was thinking that too, but I'm almost positive that a business can't refuse service to someone based on, say, race. Like Crono mentioned, it does seem odd (because I do distinctly remember the rule you described). I'm not a lawyer (especially not one of Canadian law) so I can't say if it was legal for the management to throw you out. What I can say is that is certainly was not right.
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[Crono]

One thing that you don't notice if you're watching the video unless you really look is that Jed (the guy playing) actually took the skirt off and "unrolled up" his shorts. (These were normal shorts like he normally wears everywhere, not underwear or boxers) He also unravelled his shirt, so, basically whatever they had originally threatened had already been accounted for, but, basically because their egos (or something else?) were at stake, they just decided to ignore that and kick us out anyway. (As you see in the video "for discriminating against them"...talk about the pot calling the kettle black.)
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Not too long ago, people were refused service (it was implied because of their race).

It still happens nowadays, but it falls under a more subtle guise.

[Crono]

The beauty of this, and I'm not sure if you really could catch it on the video, but it's that I actually basically got them to admit what the reason was for kicking us out, so, if it's not under a subtle guise and they actually admit the reasoning, there might be some recourse.

Not that I really care that much - not only do I not live in that city, but, since their ITG 2 machine used to be the closest, it is no longer because our local arcade bought it from them. (I feel sorry for the other local players though, because they also lost their OTHER ITG 2 machine and got a crappy SN instead)
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[HeavyD2]

I'm outraged that this has happened to a decent ITG player who had done nothing wrong or immoral. Kicking someone out only for crossdressing, to me, is no more justifiable than kicking someone out because they're gay or even black. A man dressed in an unusual manner, as long as he's not committing indecent exposure (which this guy wasn't) should be welcomed with the same open arms to play that a normally dressed man would get.

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[Da-Risin-Smoke]

Was this at JZee's?? I can't see the video...

Unfortunately, like in the 60s, now it's OK to discriminate gays.
Well, they changed it a bit..
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[Crono]

This happened at Avalon in Nanaimo. (A theatre dealie) JZees actually bought that same machine, so now we have it anyway. (We used to have to travel to Nanaimo to play ITG since that was the closest location)

And yes, I think I heard the same thing about cross-dressers being mostly heterosexual as well. As far as the indecent exposure possibility, I've seen girls dress a lot more trashy than that and get away with it. (As I said in the video, if anything that same manager would probably encourage, at least within his own mind...though of course that's just speculation...he could just be ultra-conservative all-round.)

I'd like to see this video circulated around just because of how...it's crazy. Hopefully more people see it soon.
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[Da-Risin-Smoke]

I wasn't applying anyone was gay; sorry for the misunderstanding.


I don't know why I posted anywayz.
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