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0. PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Where's the limit? Reply with quote

Okay, so we saw the release of ten footers back when people were like "Max 300 omg". Then it was eventually pushed to PSMO. Then we got up to thirteen with ITG. Now with custom songs, we see people passing things like One More Lovely and other freakishly freaky steps.

My question is, what foot level do you think is the absolute limit?
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1. PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With OML being considered a 14ish, I'd say around 16 would be the absolute limit.
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2. PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After Strangeprogram it stops for streams.
No one's ever going to pass stuff like Fury of the Storm, Disregard, I Am Maid, Reality and stuff like that. =\ So not really much after OML does it stop.
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3. PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we can know until we get there. The a la Menthe has been passed. That would seem to suggest that runs almost twice the speed of determinator are passable.
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4. PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well first off, don't go by foot ranking, everyone has opinions.

Second, it dosen't stop, anywhere.
The only thing that will stop someone is when they don't wanna do it anymore.
Fury of the Storm is passable, and so is basically anything.

You just gotta work your way up to it.
Pandemonium was impossible what, 2-3 years ago?
Uber Rave was insane, as was Quasar?
And people have easily ***'d that.

It's not the difficulty that will stop.
It's moving on to the next difficulty that will stop it.
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5. PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CEO Nwabudike Morgan wrote:
That would seem to suggest that runs almost twice the speed of determinator are passable.

How the hell do you figure that?
The a la Menthe is pretty much all jumps. =\
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6. PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think there really is a limit. I mean, remember how dropout had a "deathrun", then max's and then pandamonium. It'll only get harder. Even after the physical limits of the human body have been pushed, some guy is gonna get robot legs and push it even further. 64th runs WILL be done some day.

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7. PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Where's the limit? Reply with quote

Tekkie wrote:
My question is, what foot level do you think is the absolute limit?

it's when we stop caring about it.
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8. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DarkCore wrote:

How the hell do you figure that?
The a la Menthe is pretty much all jumps. =\


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WndHOVixrM

I can seriously never see fury of the storm being passed on pad ever.
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9. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DarkCore wrote:
How the hell do you figure that?
The a la Menthe is pretty much all jumps. =\

We must be using a different chart. I'm talking about a very hard fourteen that has streams at a very high speed.
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10. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Second, it dosen't stop, anywhere.

Sure it does. There is a limit to the human body, it just isn't clear exactly what it is.
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11. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think 15. I mean, there wouldn't be too many people who would be able to do 14s. And I almost no one could do 15s. But you must realize they have to be legit 14s/ 15s, not stepmania 14s or 15s which are more like weird 13s, I'm talking about no debate about whether they're 14 or 15 worthy... I don't think that made any sense...
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12. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CEO Nwabudike Morgan wrote:
DarkCore wrote:
How the hell do you figure that?
The a la Menthe is pretty much all jumps. =\

We must be using a different chart. I'm talking about a very hard fourteen that has streams at a very high speed.

Yeah, clearly we were.

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I think 15. I mean, there wouldn't be too many people who would be able to do 14s. And I almost no one could do 15s. But you must realize they have to be legit 14s/ 15s, not stepmania 14s or 15s which are more like weird 13s, I'm talking about no debate about whether they're 14 or 15 worthy... I don't think that made any sense...

Foot ratings on StepMania are basically worth absolutely nothing. Juggernaut is a 10, where as OML is a 15?
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13. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably the absolute limit is 16's or 17's, since bracket raping makes things easier. Otherwise, it would be 15.
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14. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CEO Nwabudike Morgan wrote:
FTG_ZMatrix wrote:
Second, it dosen't stop, anywhere.

Sure it does. There is a limit to the human body, it just isn't clear exactly what it is.


not only that but we know the general limits of the human body so if one was so inclined they could go about determining said limits and makeing charts right in that zone
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15. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CEO Nwabudike Morgan wrote:
DarkCore wrote:
How the hell do you figure that?
The a la Menthe is pretty much all jumps. =\

We must be using a different chart. I'm talking about a very hard fourteen that has streams at a very high speed.


The one on Youtube with Dukamok passing with ~69%?
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16. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the one.
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17. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that there will never be clear absolute limits, but the increases in what is possible will slow down after a while.
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18. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Lance Armstrong played ITG he could problably do 16's easy.
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19. PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OrangeJuiceAssassin wrote:
If Lance Armstrong played ITG he could problably do 16's easy.
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Um...alright. Why is that? I'm probably missing something here.
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