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0. PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Why doesn't anyone use themes? Reply with quote

I see a lot of screenshots of StepMania that people have taking using the default theme. So I want to know why no one uses any others. I use System Zero most of the time, and I think it's great. If you ask me, it's way better then the default one.
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1. PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Techno Fiend 3. Sweetest skin evar.

Some people just couldn't be bothered I guess.
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2. PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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3. PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think one reason so many people use the default theme is because of slower overall performance while using a theme. Seriously, compare your default theme to your Extreme theme and tell me which one has smoother performance. I personally don't like using the default theme; I think it's extremely bland and just a dull remake of the awesome DDRMAX theme. But since the default theme works best, it makes most sense to use it over other themes when trying to get high scores.
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4. PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use it for the above reason and because it's easier to recognize.
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5. PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use ITG everythying, and I can honestly say there is no performance dip. I still get 300+ FPS.

And I think the default skin is ugly as hell.
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6. PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

psisar wrote:
... Cyberia Style 3. Sweetest skin evar.


Based on my scores I'm fairly sure I perform just fine using a theme. Maybe it's that people are trying to use themes on ass-crap computers or something.
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7. PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Themes are ok, but they are kind of distracting and unnecessarily flashy, something I don't really enjoy. Also, I played SM on the default theme so long before I even knew about other themes that if I use another theme, my MA decreases a lot. Most people who have played awhile don't use other themes because of similar/score-oriented reasons.
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8. PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJBon2112 wrote:
I use ITG everythying, and I can honestly say there is no performance dip. I still get 300+ FPS.

And I think the default skin is ugly as hell.


Is that with Vsync off? I don't like having Vsync off. It makes the frame rate get high, but everything looks choppier.
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9. PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

videoCWK wrote:
DJBon2112 wrote:
I use ITG everythying, and I can honestly say there is no performance dip. I still get 300+ FPS.

And I think the default skin is ugly as hell.


Is that with Vsync off? I don't like having Vsync off. It makes the frame rate get high, but everything looks choppier.


Clearly he just has an uber amazing 300 Hz monitor and he is running it with Vsync on. You just seem to suck that much.

ok... Seriously, I run an ITG theme (Groove 2.1) and my FPS are perfectly fine (even at 1280x1024). You guys just need to lower your settings if you have an older computer.
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10. PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just tried a bunch of themes, and am back to the default. Some of the themes are great, but there's always some little flaw that forces me to go back to the default. A few reasons:
    * I sometimes pipe the computer's output to a TV. Every theme I've ever seen (except default) assumes you can read tiny letters.
    * Some themes have hideous or unreadable life meters.
    * Some themes have terrible "miss" "boo" "great" etc. text.
    * At least one theme actually hid which step set (e.g. All Music, Mix 1, etc.) is selected when starting the game.
    * Some of the themes are busy, too much visual clutter, I can't figure out what I'm looking at.
    * Some of the themes are just plain ugly.

The new 4.0 theme looked like it avoided most of these problems, I'm happy to say.
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11. PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pmg i cant live without usnig a skin..i have no idea wat my skin is im using atm
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12. PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im teh blu3 wrote:
pmg i cant live without usnig a skin..i have no idea wat my skin is im using atm


My eyes hurt.


I wish that Takuya20's themes would work on Ubuntu... E12.gif E18.gif disgust.gif frown.gif
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13. PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im teh blu3 wrote:
pmg i cant live without usnig a skin..i have no idea wat my skin is im using atm


That makes no sence. But let me guess. Is it called DEFAULT?
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14. PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Themes I use are Groove 2.2, Party Collectiom, Extreme VS5, and the SM4 default theme.


Depends on what type of songs im playing really, if Im playing stuff like Eggman simfiles or easier 11s/12s then i'll use the Groove 2.2 theme for percentage (KKR never worked for me).
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15. PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Synaesthesia is right. I tried out the Groove 2.2 theme on my new computer and it worked absolutely fine, not dragging like it did on my other computer. The real reasons must be because that the default theme is the most refined and saves you the trouble of getting out a new theme. I always use themes, though. I like simulating what certain songs would be like on a certain game that they never appeared in (i.e., Daikenkai in 6th Mix, technically the earliest DDR game it could've appeared in, considering Pop'n Music 6 came out in mid 2001).
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16. PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't really changed the theme, but I'm in the process of messing with most of the pictures. For instance, when Stepmania is loading, and the lovely screen pops up, it reads "ZOMG! MUSIC!!!1" written in childish handwriting from MSpaint.
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17. PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jupichan wrote:
I haven't really changed the theme, but I'm in the process of messing with most of the pictures. For instance, when Stepmania is loading, and the lovely screen pops up, it reads "ZOMG! MUSIC!!!1" written in childish handwriting from MSpaint.


Messing with themes is fun. Especially when you get to the part where you edit the language. I made it say rude things biggrin.gif
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18. PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

videoCWK wrote:
DJBon2112 wrote:
I use ITG everythying, and I can honestly say there is no performance dip. I still get 300+ FPS.

And I think the default skin is ugly as hell.


Is that with Vsync off? I don't like having Vsync off. It makes the frame rate get high, but everything looks choppier.

Not do I, and with Vsync on I still get 75. If you have any semi-recent video card, themes do not adversely affect performance.
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19. PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my sm runs slow randomly for no apparent reason sometimes, but it has nothing to do with the skin. it always runs the same speed for me, default skin or not.
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