Long Versions. What are your thoughts on them?

Auspher · Trick Member Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Location: Medina, Ohio

Long Versions were, IIRC, introduced in DDR 5th mix and haven't been around since. Do you like the idea of dancing to a single tune for an extended amount of time, or do you think it's too tiring?

Also think about songs that have bad cuts due to the song length(Ex. Silence(Airscape Remix), Look to the Sky(Trance mix)...Silence didn't even make it to the chorus and LTTS(TM) had other fun parts in the song that didn't make the cut).
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naoki_fangirl · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject:

I'd think that dancing that long would be really tough (for me at least), especially the stepchart for B4U (Glorious Style) on Heavy. That is a definite cata. I feel tired just looking at it.

It'd be hard on Heavy, but Light would be simple, thank goodness.
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RBCF retunes · Trick Member Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Location: 2P side

Long versions should be less tiring. After all, nobody would want to play a 3 minute version of Max.(period), Max.(period).
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Auspher · Trick Member Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Location: Medina, Ohio

Difficulty for long versions should be kept at 9 foot at the highest, though if there were a long version of some of the easier 10's that wouldn't be too bad. I say that playing for an extended amount of time on a single song, even if it is really tiring, is an excellent way of improving your stamina. It's an added challenge, so why not?
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Jayden Hakrodan · Trick Member Joined: 17 May 2006 Location: Asheville, NC

I enjoy songs being long. The longer they are, the more they demand from you, which means ultimately you'll improve in stamina drastically if you play enough difficult long version songs(unless they get soft and decide to add lone freezes in the middle to cool off). That's one reason I enjoy In The Groove more than DDR. Not just because the steps can be more difficult, but because the typical length is longer than that of DDR. I would especially enjoy to see some long versions of the Max series. It sounds scary to players still working on them, but I'd find it fun. Of course, there are some songs that I imagine would get quite boring if they were played for, say, seven minutes, and I imagine the variety of songs wouldn't be very great due to simply the amount of time it'd take to make arrow charts for songs that long. But I'm assuming long versions are seven minutes for fun.

tekkie · Trick Member Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Location: Albuquerque

Long Versions = more playing. Definitely want moAr as long as they are excellent.

A long version of Sakura would kick so muuc h as s.
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videoCWK! · Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:02 am Post subject:

I've never played a long version on a pad (only on SM with my keyboard), but they look like tons of fun. It's too bad they were only in 5thMICKS.

Evil_pied · Trick Member Joined: 03 Jun 2006

I've made my own sm files with songs that are 15mins plus.
Classical music can have the coolest stepcharts.

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B4ULoveShine · Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject:

Initially, it's a good concept, poorly executed.

I'm glad that Naoki did some, and honestly, I love B4U Glorious Style (I didn't get the chance to play Dynamite Rave ~Long Version, unfortunately

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I found the concept was poorly executed since it was accounted for as 2 songs (and NOT playable on any stage before the last).

I just hope the concept would return on 2008, as Naoki Maeda (any other Bemani artist) would make more Long Songs; this time around, they better revive the concept in tune with GFdm.
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Zonic · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:45 am Post subject:

I can just imagine......The Least 333 Seconds (longer version of Least 100 seconds. BTW, 333 seconds=5:33). But if they do include long versions again, it should also have the short version avalible & count as 2 stages for being double the length.

Dakota · Trick Member Joined: 28 Feb 2006

Those would be a bitch to AAA. Imagine black flagging a song that's 6 minutes long with 1000 steps? Would you ever wanna play that song again?
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RBCF retunes · Trick Member Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Location: 2P side

Why would they use a 6 minute long song on DDR? That's waaaay too long.

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Wermo · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Location: Hamilton ON

Long songs should only be revived in the console versions. There's definitely demand out there, it's only the economics of ddr and arcades that really prevents their use or their return.

I'd love to play a longer Butterfly or Oops I did it again, as long as it wasn't quite as slow as Ex2's version.
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Auspher · Trick Member Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Location: Medina, Ohio

A long version of Seduction(Vocal Remix) would be amazing. For me, it seems like theres an aura of energy that surrounds the whole version that could keep me playing it again and again.

Another good song for a long version would be Captain Jack(the original version.) I think it sounds a lot better than grandale mix, though if it were the whole song they'd have to edit the "I wanna be a F***ing man" part somehow so the little kids won't cry.

EDIT: I just thought of something...Nonstop mode, Oni mode....howabout some sort of Long mode, with all long version songs? This could be introduced to the arcade as well!
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Paejon_Blah · Trick Member Joined: 10 May 2005

Imagine the full version of So Deep. It pains me to think of the stamina needed for that. But yeah, I wish we still had 5th mix at the arcade so I could hit up Hot Limit.

Long songs are pro.

Side Note: 6 minute songs would probably be Marathon Songs. Marathons take up 3 songs out of your credits.
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