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0. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:18 pm    Post subject: what is so hard about So Deep? Reply with quote

So Deep heavy isnt hard at all, its a big pattern. in the beginning its the same thing like 5-8 times. then the same thing but a different pattern for 5-8 times etc...the patterns are pretty much all gallops too. The ending might be a bit troublesome but just pop in ddrmax2 and slow the song down, with handclap. E4.gif
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1. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing is hard about it. There are just five hundred steps and a whole lot of gallops, so it's a bit hard to AAA. Otherwise, not hard at all.
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2. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stamina issues, I presume. That's probably the only thing against the player.
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3. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Deep isn't hard at all, just play it on 2x and on flat. It's that easy nerd.gif .
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4. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its hard if you don't have the stamina or if you can't do the gallops. In addition this song requires a different kind of stamina too - leg stamina. I know about a third of the way into the song my legs get weird and then around the halfway point they stiffen up and don't want to move anymore...
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5. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really can't see why it is such a stamina issue. I see other people play it all funny and they seem to try WAY too hard. I just kinda flow around the pad effortlessly and I have no problems. I think it just got too big of a reputation that it freaks people out. shocked.gif
Legend of Nilo wrote:
So Deep isn't hard at all, just play it on 2x and on flat. It's that easy nerd.gif .

Reverse dark 1x on flat AA is easier! laugh.gif
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6. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GARYsurvivor wrote:
I really can't see why it is such a stamina issue. I see other people play it all funny and they seem to try WAY too hard. I just kinda flow around the pad effortlessly and I have no problems. I think it just got too big of a reputation that it freaks people out. shocked.gif
Legend of Nilo wrote:
So Deep isn't hard at all, just play it on 2x and on flat. It's that easy nerd.gif .

Reverse dark 1x on flat AA is easier! laugh.gif
sounds interesting, i'm going to start practicing on that soon.
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7. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a 9 because:

1. If you're new into the 9 foot range, the song is an energy drainer.
2. Slightly difficult to sight read if you're not used to it.
3. PA like Kiba said.
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8. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not hard, but if you're a noob and you are just moving up to heavy and you see that song on 1x, it's extremely intimidating.

498 steps=Freak Out!
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9. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this should go in the DDR Gameplay Forum.

But So Deep is REALLY hard to PA, at least for me. I get 30+ greats on it on a good day.
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10. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I avoid So Deep like the plague. erm.gif

Don't want to waste my money failing the song because, even though the beat is easy to pick up, those gallops are friggin' tough. I have trouble doing the gallops/half steps on R&P & Japan, so this So Deep is both of their steps with added evil, spiced with longevity and brought to a boil.


One of these days I'll get it though... E1.gif
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11. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: what is so hard about So Deep? Reply with quote

max,(comma) wrote:
So Deep heavy isnt hard at all, its a big pattern. in the beginning its the same thing like 5-8 times. then the same thing but a different pattern for 5-8 times etc...the patterns are pretty much all gallops too. The ending might be a bit troublesome but just pop in ddrmax2 and slow the song down, with handclap. E4.gif


I completly aggree except it is kind of tiering

But i do love this song AA
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12. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not hard at all. I mean, all it does is completely make your legs feel like jellow and then make them unable to move. whats hard about that?
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13. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

like that other guy said, this song is different from others in that it is not so much cardio as it is muscular endurance. some people have a tendancy to gallop on their toes meaning this song takes alot more out of them leg wise. i dont think theres much more to say than that.
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14. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think So Deep is also the 2nd longest song in the game at 1:42 (Kakumei is 1:52 I believe...but doesn't have nearly as many steps).

The Least 100 Seconds is 1:40 (ZOMG 100 SECONDS!!1!1!!1oneoneone) and 300 BPM so that is a harder 9. I think it has a comprable number of steps (though not as many).
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15. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[RiVAL] LittleMike wrote:
I think So Deep is also the 2nd longest song in the game at 1:42 (Kakumei is 1:52 I believe...but doesn't have nearly as many steps).

The Least 100 Seconds is 1:40 (ZOMG 100 SECONDS!!1!1!!1oneoneone) and 300 BPM so that is a harder 9. I think it has a comprable number of steps (though not as many).



Uh... No?

It's 264 BPM or somewhere close and it's only 8 feet...[/b]
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16. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skullman7 wrote:
I think this should go in the DDR Gameplay Forum.

Actually, it should go into the Let's-All-Wave-Our-Schlongs-Around-By-Calling-a-Hard-Song-"Easy" Forum.

Oh wait, I just noticed we don't have one of those. In that case, I'd like to suggest we open one up as the dumping ground for posts like these.
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thepinkdoomofmonkeys wrote:
It's not hard, but if you're a noob and you are just moving up to heavy and you see that song on 1x, it's extremely intimidating.

498 steps=Freak Out!
erm.gif Last I checked the song had 500 steps
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18. PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's when they toss in those extra 16th notes, that's when it gets tricky. If you notice, a lot of songs that have any 16th notes in them usually are 8-9 feet (10s go too fast for 16ths, except for bag, but we don't need to go there). And gallops are hard when you have to keep using different arrows.
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19. PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legend of Nilo wrote:
thepinkdoomofmonkeys wrote:
It's not hard, but if you're a noob and you are just moving up to heavy and you see that song on 1x, it's extremely intimidating.

498 steps=Freak Out!
erm.gif Last I checked the song had 500 steps


Nope. So Deep has 498 steps. That one jump at the end makes for a 500 combo.
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