DDR a Sport

[Vandel.M]

just wondering does anyone think of ddr as a sport ? and if so is it a sport and why cant it be big like any other sport?

[Xanthros]

It's a physical contest with clear rules and regulations, I guess it's a sport. It will never be big and popular because there are too few people who are even good enough to know anything about hard songs, and most people who play don't care to ever get good. Also, DDR is too easy, it could only be a sport if it were exciting, so maybe really hard ITG custom songs could be used. But it won't happen, for the reason I stated above.
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[recoil56]

I believe its a sport in the Netherlands. DDR is interesting though i have to admit in all seriousness its been around long enough so people in my school know what it is. DDR as exercise = good. DDR as a sport = bad. It's almost like saying Wii sports is an actual sport, but then you realize it's a collection of sport simulations, and how could a simulation be the real deal? DDR is a simulation of dance. How can DDR be the real deal?
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I am going to go with what NYC told me years ago.

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New York (irrelevant) Dance Sports. I interpret it as it's own level of sport.
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[Suko]

So, how good are Norwegian "Pros"?

It seems like the best players in the world came from Japan (pre ITG-era), but since popularity there has died, I think the US has overwhelmingly taken that title. I'm curious how a Norwegian pro stacks up to a good US player.
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[Neon Kel]

I still have to give the "best players in world" title to Japan. Look up vids of Brosoni. He's a beast. And I also heard of another Japanese player who Full Marv Comboed Colors heavy.
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[Neon Kel]

It's funny you should say that; I happen to know quite a few stamina players (Keystone is home to a plethora of them) who are terrible in comparison at DDR. Even Cali-mist told me at one time he couldn't AA Sakura.

Why is that? The timing differences, maybe? DDR's multi-elemental stepcharts as opposed to nothing but a 16th note stream on hacked ITG's?

Sure these stamina players can pass the hardest DDR songs without breaking a sweat, but if we're talking about the best DDR players in the world, where would these 15ft-stamina players rank when put up against the best Japan has to offer on a DDR grading scale? Not as high as you think, imo.

But I agree with you when you say Japanese players wouldn't last when you put them on an ITG stage and throw 14s or 15s at them. But that's a different topic of discussion.

to Ranatalus:

Comparable, sure: Jboy is awesome, Funsize Twix is like a child phenom, Legend of Soul, old schoolers like Mega Man X, Terrance (who i DO consider one the best to EVER step on the pad), Evil Dave is legit, so is WinDEU among others.

But even so, some of the accomplishments i'm seeing from from Japan's players are really amazing/ridiculous.

such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Pj4Uq8vrY

and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9RPn75tFXA&feature=related

and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsGTDUQfxy4

plus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdGX24F5LAc

then there's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLb268qd6_s&feature=related
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[grumbles]

who cares about ddr though

i mean really

ddr is the worst platform for any type of competition, lending itself to people who can read well as opposed to the challenge simply being the steps themselves - consider the stupid lack of proper speed/perspective mods, differentiation between notes, visibility (or lack thereof), and it just falls apart compared to a good hacked machine that has mods in increments of .25x from .25 to 10x, more than a few perspective mods, thousands of songs, etc etc

at any higher difficulty level it simply becomes more a challenge of "can i even read these steps?" rather than "can i do them?, which is completely ridiculous imo

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[Neon Kel]

I'm actually quite surprised Kevin still plays o_O.

1st vid: Brosoni - FAXX 8 greats, 1 boo
2nd vid: Brosoni - Max300 18 perfects
3rd vid: KK - Chaos OMES (supernova) AAA
4th vid: Yukina - Brilliant2U orchestra (hvy) FMC
5th vid: Yukina - Colors (hvy) FMC

and there's another Brosoni vid of him AAing Hades oni floating around on the internet somewhere.

But you're right, we do have peeps over hear that can hang with Japanese players on some aspects of the game. It's just the accuracy they have is unbelievable.
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I really should make a video of me doing a random song on 5x shuffle no bar and put it here.

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[Nathan.]

i have so much i could say about this but none of the patience to write it

regardless of the arguements between the difficulties/pros+cons of ITG vs. DDR, it's completely agreeable that the "top tier" US ITG players would completely and utterly shit all over 99.9% of European/Japanese players at ITG

from all the videos ive seen ceder seems to be the best european ITG player

im looking all over to find this youtube video of this absolutely hilarious EU tournament video of some finals match where the two players were decked out in sweatbands and athletic wear and poopy and they played Know Your Enemy (iirc, all i know is it was some hybrid song) and they got 85.xx and 89.xx , to the crowd's amazement

lololol

While I obviously wouldn't know anything about the international scene as a whole, I'd be willing to bet money that if you took the top 10-20 players from America, Europe, and Asia and paid them to practice for 3 months day in and day out and then threw them in a tournament with each other, I would bet all my money that the American players would annihilate the majority of non-American players in both DDR and ITG2

but yeah ill post a more on-topic repsonse later and maybe add on to this

[grumbles]

[Neon Kel]

I thought that was already established when