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60. Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject:

Telling someone he sucks at DDR because he likes to use speed mods is like telling Paul Gilbert he sucks at guitar because he likes low action.

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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject:

12 wrote:

Telling someone he sucks at DDR because he likes to use speed mods is like telling Paul Gilbert he sucks at guitar because he likes low action.

In what way? That doesn't make any sense. You can't just take 2 things that SOUND a LITTLE like each other and shout them out.

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62. Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: Yarni is a drama queen

Discoman
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: Re: You smell like feet, sir.

Yarni wrote:

I love bitching. That's how I function. That's how I come to terms with things. There are certain people who cope by slashing their wrists and listening to terrible music and write poetry in a graveyard... I just complain about everything. Certain people love me for it, and certain people loathe me for it.

You can even say the same things about speed mod usage. Some people accept it, and others will loathe you for it. If you like using speed mods go for it, if you like arguing with me and complaining like I do, come do it with me.

Ultimately, It's your choice. I just hate you for it.

I generally dislike you as well. But not because you are a non-speed mod purist; because you are a prick and argumentative in professing your opinion.

Pointed for flaming. Post again in this thread and you run the risk of more depending on how you post.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:50 am Post subject:

jesus christ these threads still happen?

what is wrong with you people
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12
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:23 am Post subject:

Yarni wrote:

In what way? That doesn't make any sense. You can't just take 2 things that SOUND a LITTLE like each other and shout them out.

I don't know if this is sophistry or if you genuinely can't work it out, but here you go:

Yngwie Malmsteen and Paul Gilbert both play shred guitar.

Yngwie likes a fairly high action. Paul Gilbert plays with a very low action.

They're both performing the same action, but they are modifying the instrument to taste. Does that make one of them better than the other at playing guitar? No.

Here's another one: Telling someone he sucks at DDR because he uses speed mods is like telling Chopin he sucked at piano because he liked to use large print sheets of music.

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:52 am Post subject:

12 wrote:

Yarni wrote:

In what way? That doesn't make any sense. You can't just take 2 things that SOUND a LITTLE like each other and shout them out.

That's still a very weak argument, and your chopin one isn't one, it's just silly. Using larger print is like using a bigger TV for DDR because your eyes suck. That's not your fault.

And Instruments... once again how does that relate to DDR in ANY way? Come on, seriously. They are both great at guitar, and modifying the PHYSICAL properties of something hasn't really happened in DDR yet, so the comparison still doesn't make sense. Just cut that out.

It's like me saying The third piggy was cheap for using bricks and cement on his house compared to the other two who used straw and wood. It sounds like something but it's dumb and has absolutely no relevance to this argument.

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67. Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:54 am Post subject:

Apparently no one taught you about analogies in grade school. Reading the arrows and stepping on them are two different skills. Not being able to read 1x just means you suck at reading 1x. It has precisely frick all to do with how well you can step on them.

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject:

Yarni wrote:

Using larger print is like using a bigger TV for DDR because your eyes suck.

So then it must be ok to use speed mods as long as your eyes suck...
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69. Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject:

Long story short: you use speed mods, you will probably learn the charts faster. it makes the game easier to learn, but not to master. mastery and max scoring is determined by your ability to comprehend the chart rhythmically , not how what you see is displayed (if you want proof of this, play a really hard modded marathon). If you put max 300 on x2, you might comprehend it, you might not. If you memorized it, what speed you use won't matter. Taking it further - almost any pro uses speed mods in some capacity or another. If you want to be competitive, use speed mods. If you want to look awesome, do it x1. / freaking thread

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70. Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject:

I don't think I can name one person that still plays on 1x, seriously. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/haysuptats

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject:

I know a few 1x players, but they're not giant cockbags about it.

SPEAKING OF GIANT COCKBAGS,

[quote="Yarni"]

Flayd wrote:

Barnie! Oh wait, or was it Yarni? Who cares. Same thing.

My how mature of you Flaw'd.

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Yarni: Were ANY of these AAA's on 1x? I don't care about the bar, but like... do you have any skill whatsoever?

Getting AAAs is hard enough on some songs, so who cares if this wasnât on 1x?

Iunno you tell me. I don't really care, I just say it doesn't count as much as on 1x.

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Yarni: I know, blahblah the bar thing, so bar aside, do you know how to read ANYTHING in DDR?

If she didnât know how to read anything in DDR, would she be getting AAAs, let alone even be playing?

My apologies, I meant anything on 1x. An Oni course, perhaps? A 5thMIX or previous MIX? Something along those lines.

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Yarni: We will see how you fair at a real game of DDR.

Define âreal game of DDRâ.

Yarni: You held everyone up for an hour all because you don't know how to play like a normal person.

And now define how you play like a normal person. Better yet, just define a normal person.

Okay, definitely my bad on that one. I meant default game. As for the people... I guess "normal" in DDR means moddign it up to make each player feel comfy in a game that would otherwise be too slow or difficult for them.

What I SHOULD have said, was can you stick out as a player at all? There are HUGE amounts of players all around the Boston and New York areas from what I've seen, who all play 3x SOLO BAR. How about you either start playing everything on 8x, or everything on 1x. Maybe learn to stop taking the cheap way out like is common with normal DDR players?

I guess I'm fighting over people not trying to be different now? Awesome.

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Yarni: Well then I appreciate and value you as a player. Anyone who can do great on 1x will do great on ANY speed they can read. So obviously you can flag it on 8x, since you can flag it on 1x.

So if I were to flag The Legend of MAX on 1x, then I can flag it on 8x?

If you CAN read 8x, then yes. Read my posts if you're going to respond to them.
"Anyone who can do great on 1x will do great on ANY speed they can read."
So if you CAN read TLoM 8x, then yeah, but I'm sure you can't and you were jumping the gun and being a dick.

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mirite?

No.

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why did you bring this conversation up and why do you even care about something you havenât played within that period of time?

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So who cares? Oh wait. You do.

I don't actually care. My opinion is that is just doesn't count for as much as on 1x. I love debating. This is a debate. Or at least it was. I'm not even sure what it is anymore. I'd like for it to be a debate. Either that or just ignore me or something.

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VoLT: Wow, you are truly braindead. Go put your dick in a blender.

He has a dick? I donât even know this guy, and Iâm kind of skeptical about that.

I could be a girl for all you know. After all, I sure do seem to be complaining a lot. Seemingly about nothing. And you boys keep feedign into it like it's candy and gumdrops. If you don't want to talk about it then ignore me. It would do us all a favor.

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Yarni: I didn't win because I WASN'T THERE!

Nor would you stand a chance.

To Volt: Oh derrr, maybe that's because I DON'T PLAY DDR. Besides you have no idea how much of a chance I would have stood. I certainly wouldn't put up with your 5x crap. I only played 1x tourneys. I've been to a handicap tourney and people from Boston came and 3x Barred their way to the top when everyone else was using 1x, 1.5x and 2x all no bar. Sounds pretty cheap to me. Play me 1x and you will fail miserably. There are pleny of times, games, and modes where you are forced into 1x default settings. Name one point in time where I have to use your ridiculous mods? I can read the extra stages, and I only had minor troubles reading the 3x encore stages. (I even lowered myself to use the bar at one point. Ew.) At least speed mods become a nice challenge in my case. You use them as a crutch.

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Yarni: You aren't better than me at DDR. I'm quite sure the 5x speaks for itself.

Alright, then get more AAAs than Dave.

Yeah, sure. I'll get right on it. Oh wait, I don't play DDR anymore. Forgot. The most I do is just make fun of other people while dicking around to underplayed songs, since everyone ruined all the other songs.

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Yarni: Try playing on 1x, then we'll talk... Actually we won't since I don't really play DDR anymore.

Again, why do you care? But if you want us to, then weâll do so, and then you can just shit bricks.

What?? I don't even get that one. Go ahead and play 1x please me, please me. I'll be poopy sunshine and lollipops.

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Yarni: I don't need to see you play. You use fucking FIVE TIMES SPEED!!! I've seen so many of your high speed mod, bar-raping, kind play.

And? What exactly is your point here? We use FIVE TIMES SPEED!!! OH MY! So what?

You came late to the arguement, if you want to know so what then stop being lazy and go back to read all my bickering. It's the same thing I've been saying for awhile now.

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VoLT: I started on ITG2 about 2.5-3 years ago if you really want to know.

So I guess if you can get a lot of AAAs, then this other faggot can almost AAA DDR Extreme, right? And since I have been playing for about 6-7 years or so, then I should be able to consistently AAA songs like Rob or Craig?

Do they play on 1x? If not then what AAA's?

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Yarni: Can you even READ 1x?

Well we didnât say we couldnât read 1x. And Iâm sure we can read 1x. So there you have it.

Dead wrong. Volt openly admitted he couldn't read 1x. His exact words were "No." So there you have it.

He and I would never be able to play against each other, because he sucks on default, and I can't bring myself to play with speed mods like him. I would vomit every time I thought about it. I even feel sick now.

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Yarni: Its all the same. you're just hitting arrows, like an ITG player.

So I guess weâre not hitting arrows like a DDR player? Itâs the same game, isnât it? Oh wait, I guess it isnât, especially since the concept of both games are so fucking similar.

They are similar because ITG is a terrible rip off of DDR. I think the big speed mod boom in this area came from ITG. It all caters to stepmania fags and fanboys who know all the lyrics to a bunch of songs like Volt does, apparently. Most serious Stepmania and ITG players stereotypically over use speed mods. That's all those games are. Mashing random arrows, to any kind of song even if the arrows dont fit well. You might as well just mute the sound and have an all day arrow fest, since thats what they really want.

Note that I said MOST, not ALL. So no more stupid responses that ignore half of my sentence.

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letâs be like this fag and play Vertex BETA on 1x! For get about that, actually. How about 0.25x!

How about that song is lame, and I don't like ITG, and also that while I enjoy the challenge of slow-mods, 0.25x is still a speed mod, and I've seen people use it on fast sogns to make it EASIER. Best example is on one of the crappy xbox DDR's where I saw someone use 0.5x on The Legend of MAX. on standard.

And I'm sorry if your precious Stepmania/ITG is too hard to play with no mods. That must suck to have such a broken crappy unregulated game.

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mrclean235: Damn, that means I've been doing it wrong all this time...thank you for enlightening me of the path oh wise and hairy banana.

I guess I should just kill myself for playing this game the wrong way this whole time then.

Indeed you should. You're welcome, btw.

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So using 5x or 8x doesnât force you to actually have to listen to the music and âstompâ to a rhythm?

Pretty much, the timing window is opened along a greater distance, making it possible to just stumble about on 2x without having to even listen to the song.

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Yarni: Oh, sorry. Not the insane songs, but a majority of songs have patterns which make the player look like he is break dancing.

Ya becuz evry1 can breakdance yo and im shure dat woman can breakdance 2 yo

You're doing that thing you're so good at and not really reading what I wrote. I said it LOOKS like the player is dancing "fer reels".

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Yarni: Only 2, 1 was on heavy and 1 was on standard, el oh el. I stopped playing a long time ago, when I was SGD'ing everything. (on 1x of course) I kept getting 1-3 Greats on a bunch of songs. It got annoying, and I didn't want to succumb to getting a AAA by using 1.5x, so I just quit without AAAing them.

Yeah, even after you said you played occasional light and standard. Iâm guessing you play on 1x because you canât even read fast since all you ever play on is Light and Standard. I bet you donât even know how to change your speed modifier. If you do know to do so, then hey, congratulations.

Wrong, and congrats to me, thanks

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Oh yeah, and pics, or it didnât happen.

Yes, I'll go retro-photograph the screen from 4 some odd years ago.

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VoLT: I quadded Juggernaut just now, but I used 20x mini and 2.0x rate, bar, and futuring with my penis. Couldn't get a pic cause my camera exploded, which caused the machine to explode along with it.
I'd count it.
Donât forget that you played it blindfolded too on Mirror.
I think you forgot to mention that you quadded Eruption right after that with the same modifiers.

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Oh yeah, and pics, or it didnât happen.

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Oh yeah, and pics, or it didnât happen.

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Oh yeah, and pics, or it didnât happen.

What happened to that? Sounds like lying to me.
And by the way, I don't actually care if you show pictures of your crappy speed-fest or not. I don't count them as AAA's anyway.

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Yarni: I have 2 posters on ddrfreak tracking all my posts on here, I'd call that stalking.

I think itâs more than that. Hell we should just stalk you and have a dance-off, right? Oh yeah, and should we able to use the weapons modifier too?

See, it's a crutch to you. Can't play a real game of DDR without speed mods, because I'm too stupid to read 1x.
Aside from the obvious problems of stalking and threatening someone, you obviously suck at fighting too, since you need "weapon mods" because you're too stupid to ....fight on 1x? Makes sense. You are ganging up after all. 1x = 1 on 1 for this example. Your weapons count as the bar.

Man you are sucking in every category here. I'm even getting creative with this.

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Yarni: You haven't seen me play, and a lot of you didn't even know about DDR when I was still playing.

And I donât think we want to see you play with your âsuper awesome pro skills on 1xâ, because people who donât play on 1x suck a lot, right? I guess youâre just too good for us.

Yup.

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Stop bringing up the past to support your arguments, because they donât work.

I'm from the past, baby. That's when I played DDR, before you ruined it.

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Yarni: But in all seriousness, I'm even noticing I'm going a little too far. I won't give up on the 1x issue. I feel strongly about it. I'll fight as strongly for it as you guys do against it.

Keep it coming! This is fun. Not to mention, itâs only one vs. the whole community in this thread.

Sir, let me just let you know that NOBODY here finds this more fun than I do. And look, Me versus everyone, how big of a challenge. Even after i quit DDR I'm still finding ways to challenge myself, unlike you and your cheap handicap ways.

Basically, I'm on this argument using 1x, and you guys are using, and this is an exact number: 77903x. Good job.

And I made that post because people like you made me get into sniping fights and flame wars, something I didn't necessarily want to get into. So much for avoiding excessive confrontation, eh? I was trying to maybe tone it down a little, as it was my fault. Way to put gasoline on the fire.

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Yarni: I'll tell you what though. After you pass my challenge, I won't even target you about speed mods ever again.

Not sure if we should accept or decline.

To accept: Have this kid shut up.
To decline: To argue with this kid some more and have some more fun.

Hey hey, what are YOU talking about. I was talking to xenongirl. I said I would stop targeting HER. I understand I shouldn't go after one person in a community where most people use the same handicap trash. It was unfair of me. That's my apology to her, not to you.

It was my challenge to her, not to you, so stop acting like the big kahuna. Who in the hell ARE YOU? You just popped out of nowhere and made a bigger rant than me. That's saying something too. at least Volt and I were going back and forth on this, you just come in and grab every post everyone's made and try to respond to things that have already been responded to.

There will be plenty of my banter to go around. but don't try acting like the leader here. There is no leader of an argument. Get in the back of the line, Mr. Nobody.

And don't bother making some lame response to the nobody comment, because I'm the only one on my side of the debate. Everyone on your side sees my name and goes OH CRAP THIS GUY IS SO ANNOYING AND STUPID. WE SHOULD STONE HIM TO DEATH. That sounds like recognition to me. I can't even recall what your name was and I'm responding to YOUR post. At least Xenon Screams and Volt are important enough to remember even though they are my opposition. I don't count Nate as my opponent, but I know his name too.

Yarni
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject:

Slowpoke wrote:

Yarni wrote:

Using larger print is like using a bigger TV for DDR because your eyes suck.

So then it must be ok to use speed mods as long as your eyes suck...

Yes... but that obviously doesnt entail speeds as high as 3x. I've known dyslexic people who had to use 1.5x all the time. because he honestly was dyslexic.

Yarni
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject:

Ninja N8 wrote:

Long story short:

you use speed mods, you will probably learn the charts faster.

it makes the game easier to learn, but not to *master*.

Taking it further - almost any *pro* uses speed mods in some capacity or another. If you want to be competitive, use speed mods. If you want to look awesome, do it x1.

Agreed on the learning charts faster since its the easy way out of a challenge.

Agreed on the not being able to master ddr if its not 1x.

As for the pros... I've never once considered them pros. Not once.

As for 1x looking awesome, I've always seen it as speeders trying to impress people making things look faster... but now that i think about it, I guess default play will look pretty amazing to most average players today since they are all unable to play a default game. You know what N8, I will end it here on this thread, and I will go out and just look awesome. I should really start playing again just to do that.

/debate

*waits for someone to screw it up by responding to me*
Dear god please don't. Find another thread and do it.

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject:

tats wrote:

I don't think I can name one person that still plays on 1x, seriously.

Maybe it's a regional thing. I still know a lot of people that play 1x. Maybe I need to just get out and see the other players from other states, because I'm definitely seeing a huge amount of 3x SOLO bar around the east.

Yarni
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject:

VoLT wrote:

SPEAKING OF GIANT COCKBAGS,

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A POST FROM AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THREAD

Sounds like you are trying to ignite the flame war here, not me. Who's the giant cockbag, now?

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76. Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject:

Please Yarni, you're causing my pride in being a 1x no bar player to slip away. waiting for this thread to be locked _________________ Knowledge is Power........Power Corrupts......Study Hard and be Evil! >:]

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject:

Yarni wrote:

Slowpoke wrote:

Yarni wrote:

Using larger print is like using a bigger TV for DDR because your eyes suck.

So then it must be ok to use speed mods as long as your eyes suck...

Yes... but that obviously doesnt entail speeds as high as 3x. I've known dyslexic people who had to use 1.5x all the time. because he honestly was dyslexic.

So why are you placing parameters on the limits of someone's visual or cognitive disability? If your friend was more severely dyslexic, were you still gonna limit him to 1.5x?
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject:

Yarni wrote:

Yes... but that obviously doesnt entail speeds as high as 3x. I've known dyslexic people who had to use 1.5x all the time. because he honestly was dyslexic.

I use speed mods because 1x scrolls annoyingly slow. It's just boring for me to look at. I don't really care what other people think about my speed mods. I've never had anyone tell my I suck worse than them because I use them. Except on the internet where everyone has a big dick about everything.

Dyslexia is the inability to decipher phonemes properly. It would have no effect on someone reading arrows. That's ridiculous.

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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:46 am Post subject:

Yarni wrote:

tats wrote:

I don't think I can name one person that still plays on 1x, seriously.

Yeah when I play for score that's what I use.
Mainly when I play DDR I play 1.5 or 2 no bar because the songs are too simple to use the bar.

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