Why is it that the default StepMania timing windows...

[HeavyD2]

...at least the Marvelous and "Perfect", are larger than both DDR's and ITG's?

StepMania (default Judge 4)
Marvelous/Fantastic: 22.5 ms
"Perfect"/Excellent: 45 ms
Great: 90 ms
Good: 135 ms
Boo/Barely: 180 ms

DDR Extreme
Marvelous: 15 ms (Judge 6)
"Perfect": 30 ms (Judge 6)
Great: 90 ms (Judge 4)
Good: 120 ms (about judge 4 2/3)
Boo: 150 ms (Judge 5)

In The Groove
Fantastic: 21.5 ms (about judge 4 1/4)
Excellent: 43 ms (about judge 4 1/4)
Great: 102 ms (about judge 3.2)
Decent: 135 ms (Judge 4)
Way Off: 180 ms (Judge 4)

So to truly get what would be a AAA in DDR, you'd have to get a AAA on Judge 6 (which would be a AAAA on Judge 2!)

And if somebody knows what the home DDR version timing windows are, that would be great.

[Nightime]

DDR EXTREME was designed for "Perfect" play. SM/itg was designed for "Marvelous" play. SuperNOVA's timing windows are considerably different/tightened too, but though the "Marvelous" and "Perfect" window is smaller, the "Great" and "Good" window are much wider.

I think the only difference in most home versions is that the "Perfect" timing is 1 ms wider each way, to compensate for inconsistent hardware (3rd party Dance Pads which may not time exactly with Konami's - *and* might still be used in conjunction with them!) And even in different versions, different timing windows apply.

5th Mix timing != DDR EXTREME timing, for example. In fact, 5th Mix "Perfect" ~= DDR EXTREME "Marvelous!"

This is a neverending experiment to find a timing that's loose enough for casual players, and strict enough for professional PA'ers. Which of course, is totally contradictory, unless that's supposed to be the difference in "Marvelous" and "Perfect" timing.
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[HeavyD2]

OK, well, Marvelous/Fantastic in StepMania isn't really ranked any better than "Perfect"/Excellent, except that if you get all Marvelous/Fantastic then you get a AAAA, You still need a full "Perfect"/Excellent combo to get a AAA - which ends up being considerably easier to get than arcade DDR's counterpart. This is why I think the Marvelous is too easy to get in StepMania and why I swear by Ridiculous Timing in my StepMania 3.9. Its timing window of 11.25 ms is smaller than the Marvelous in DDR.

I can believe, though, that the SuperNOVA timing windows got smaller. I seem to get more Marvelouses on courses in Extreme than SuperNOVA.[/url]

[Nightime]

Open Data/Stepmania.ini and experiment a little with these lines: