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Mushroooshi
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40.  Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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IF Guitar Hero ever gets in arcades, it could be the final nail in the coffin for DDR.
It is very sad to say.
At least my school is going to have DDR.
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Flameboat
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| 41. Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| DAVE101 wrote: | | Rock Band is extremely lame because if you have the money and resources and can gather people to start a fake rock band, why not start a REAL rock band? For the price of a 360 or ps3 alone you could get a starter drum set. I don't understand how people practice for hours on a fake instrument, when they could be getting real musical talent instead. |
I'm going to be the guy who asks this, then: Why not learn how to actually dance? It's probably better exercise than DDR, depending on what type you learn. You could get real dancing talent, and the womenfolk are sure to love it!
I can see your point that Rock Band is pricey, but it's not really fair to put the cost of the console itself in there, since the majority of people didn't buy one just for Rock Band alone.
Being in a real band is also a lot of work; a LOT of people aren't going to be able to devote the time to be in an actual band. Rock Band is something that people can chill out and play anytime, without a commitment.
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DAVE101
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| 42. Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Flamebait wrote: | | I'm going to be the guy who asks this, then: Why not learn how to actually dance? It's probably better exercise than DDR, depending on what type you learn. You could get real dancing talent, and the womenfolk are sure to love it! |
I thought this might come up. It's hard to give an answer that won't also support the guitar hero/rock band argument. Even though the word "dance" makes up 2 out of the 3 words in the title, I don't consider it to be dancing. Anyone who has seen someone play on heavy probably wouldn't either.
GH fans would say the same thing. "It's not like guitar, it's hand eye coordination!" But that has been done to death. Not just with Beatmania/Pop'n/Drum Mania/Guitar Hero, but all games. All video games involve just pushing buttons with your fingers. DDR is hand eye coordination taken to a whole new level.
Real guitar is just way more impressive. This might be my opinion, but watching people play dance games well is just as impressive as watching real break dancing, especially when they do both at the same time (Korean guys freestyling is downright amazing).
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dj_sammylvr03
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| 43. Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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I used to be all into it. I don't play much anymore though. When i come across an arcade machine I'll get up and play. I don't play StepMania much anymore. I do bring it to church for family night though and let the other kids have fun with it, and I get up and impress.
IDK. I just don't like the small space I have to play it in (my room) and my pad (Stoli's Chrome home-made) is too heavy to move around.
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| 44. Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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I hate when people say "Why don't you play guitar" or "Why don't you really dance". It's the stupidest question. Guitar Hero and real guitar have nothing in common (I play both). There is no reason to assume that you are making a choice between playing one or the other, and neither one is a substitute for the other. I play DDR all the time. I don't dance because I don't want to learn to dance. DDR != dancing. DDR is not even really a dancing simulation, just as Guitar Hero isn't really a guitar simulation. You might as well ask "Why don't you learn to write calligraphy".
In short: these games are VERY LOOSELY based on their namesakes. The video game and the actual thing are not mutually exclusive. |
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Rene_A
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| 45. Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| Xanthros wrote: | I hate when people say "Why don't you play guitar" or "Why don't you really dance". It's the stupidest question. Guitar Hero and real guitar have nothing in common (I play both). There is no reason to assume that you are making a choice between playing one or the other, and neither one is a substitute for the other. I play DDR all the time. I don't dance because I don't want to learn to dance. DDR != dancing. DDR is not even really a dancing simulation, just as Guitar Hero isn't really a guitar simulation. You might as well ask "Why don't you learn to write calligraphy".
In short: these games are VERY LOOSELY based on their namesakes. The video game and the actual thing are not mutually exclusive. |
Agree 100%
Anyway DDR era will end when DDR games are no longer made. Nuff said.
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dmartin69
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| 46. Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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I am an online retailer of the Metal Dance pads. I can assure you that there is still a good amount of interest in the metal dance pads... And with the release of the Wii DDR and development of games continuing I cant see the end of DDR yet...
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| 47. Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Xanthros wrote: | I hate when people say "Why don't you play guitar" or "Why don't you really dance". It's the stupidest question. Guitar Hero and real guitar have nothing in common (I play both). There is no reason to assume that you are making a choice between playing one or the other, and neither one is a substitute for the other. I play DDR all the time. I don't dance because I don't want to learn to dance. DDR != dancing. DDR is not even really a dancing simulation, just as Guitar Hero isn't really a guitar simulation. You might as well ask "Why don't you learn to write calligraphy".
In short: these games are VERY LOOSELY based on their namesakes. The video game and the actual thing are not mutually exclusive. |
well said |
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oneforJJ
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| 48. Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| dmartin69 wrote: | | I am an online retailer of the Metal Dance pads. I can assure you that there is still a good amount of interest in the metal dance pads... And with the release of the Wii DDR and development of games continuing I cant see the end of DDR yet... |
i can't see it leaving anytime soon either. i wish i got into DDR back in 2003 or 2004 though, when Extreme was still kinda big... |
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Suko
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| 49. Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| oneforJJ wrote: |
i can't see it leaving anytime soon either. i wish i got into DDR back in 2003 or 2004 though, when Extreme was still kinda big... |
Those were some awesome times to be a DDR player. I myself was just getting into heavy play around 2003, but damn was it awesome. Full arcades, tons of similar players to talk to and hang out with, and tournaments almost every month...sigh.
I can definitly say that from my own personal experience that the DDR high has been reached, but by no means is it dead. I also don't see DDR and this genre ending anytime in this decade, if ever.
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| 50. Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: |
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DDR as you currently know it may die, but the concept you know as "dance gaming" won't.
I am currently working on ensuring that statement.
I too remember the old times, and I miss them a lot. The scene wasn't larger, but it was definitely more active, and more dedicated than it is now. I am trying to bring the scene that I remember back to life. |
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Mushroooshi
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| 51. Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Wow.
Yep, Guitar Hero has taken over:
We are having a "National Library Week" celelbration at schoo:
Monday: Guitar Hero
Tuesday: GH
Wednesday: GH
Thursday: GH
Friday: GH, DDR, American Idol Karaoke
Here is the retarded thing though:
They picked all music-based games, but it is on mute. How. Friggin. Stupid.
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| 52. Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Daikenkai ^.^ wrote: |
They picked all music-based games, but it is on mute. How. Friggin. Stupid. |
Epic Fail
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| 53. Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| People have been asking this question for 5 years now... |
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Silverpony
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| 54. Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I agree the DDR era has ended, which is a shame. Two years ago, I always had to wait my turn at the local arcade. Now, I hardly -ever- have to wait, and when I do it's rarely ever again for a serious player. The only other people I ever see on it are beginners playing it to check it out - you know, the kind of player who still moves their feet back to the square in the middle between steps and plays Beginner or Light?
It's nice for me because it means more time on the machine, but I hope they don't take the machine away. So long as they keep the machine there and keep it in decent repair, I don't really otherwise care. |
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| 55. Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Silverpony wrote: | Yes, I agree the DDR era has ended, which is a shame. Two years ago, I always had to wait my turn at the local arcade. Now, I hardly -ever- have to wait, and when I do it's rarely ever again for a serious player. The only other people I ever see on it are beginners playing it to check it out - you know, the kind of player who still moves their feet back to the square in the middle between steps and plays Beginner or Light?
It's nice for me because it means more time on the machine, but I hope they don't take the machine away. So long as they keep the machine there and keep it in decent repair, I don't really otherwise care. |
You do realize that's basically how the older players viewed you when you first started playing - they said "it's ending", and the only other players were beginners. I've seen it in different phases myself: and the poster above was right - people have been saying that the "era has ended" since like... 2001. But the thing is that for some it may seem like it's ending, but for others, like those beginner players, it is just beginning.
When I started playing back in Fall of '01, people were on maniac - those people had played for two years and eventually quit the game as I started moving into trick. The scene was really quiet, and I basically was the only player there except for my brothers and one or two other curious people. After about 4 months, the scene blew up, and the lines became absolutely insane. Someone would bring a fan, others would camp out by the machine and eat and trade scores and progress, etc.
See, the scene is always there, but the time and place you are going to isn't correlating with that scene. I am expecting a very large "revival" by next year. |
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| 56. Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Ninja N8 wrote: | You do realize that's basically how the older players viewed you when you first started playing - they said "it's ending", and the only other players were beginners. I've seen it in different phases myself: and the poster above was right - people have been saying that the "era has ended" since like... 2001. But the thing is that for some it may seem like it's ending, but for others, like those beginner players, it is just beginning.
When I started playing back in Fall of '01, people were on maniac - those people had played for two years and eventually quit the game as I started moving into trick. The scene was really quiet, and I basically was the only player there except for my brothers and one or two other curious people. After about 4 months, the scene blew up, and the lines became absolutely insane. Someone would bring a fan, others would camp out by the machine and eat and trade scores and progress, etc.
See, the scene is always there, but the time and place you are going to isn't correlating with that scene. I am expecting a very large "revival" by next year. |
I agree completely; in fact, I think it's kind of started already, what with SN2 not totally sucking and all.  |
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| 57. Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| ya i also agree with ninja n8 that the DDR era might being comeing to a close for some people but the a new begining is happening with alot more people. Maybe the era of DDR will end but not yet. |
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Suko
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| 58. Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Edit: Pointless post - ignore it.
EPIC FAIL
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| 59. Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Flamebait wrote: |
(That paragraph was partly targeted at PureBlue, so don't feel like I'm trying to put words in your mouth, Suko.)
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In case you didn't notice, I was being sarcastic. That's why I put the George Carlin reference at the end, because the whole post I made was a joke to piss people off.
Sorry for bumping, I just wanted to clear that up. |
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