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20.  Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Do you know my age? I mean, if you say it was "before my time", you must assume that I am of a certain age. |
And here I thought I was being nice by giving you the benefit of the doubt, rather than accusing you of living in a bubble.
But to answer your question, by "before your time", I didn't necessarily meant the events happened before you were born... but rather you weren't yet of an age where you'd be expected to follow current events. I'd say most 10 year olds tend not to keep up on current events. Actually, most 18 year olds don't seem to either... what I mean to say is that I wouldn't EXPECT a 10 year old to be following the news. Which means that unless you're older than 24 or 25, I'd consider it to be "before your time". And it's not as if I've devoted any time at all to deducing what your age might be, but given the demographics of this board, and your apparent ignorance of the events in question, it was a fair assumption that you're not that old.
And why do you keep using the word "instantaneous" when we're talking about events that happened almost 15 years ago?
And your comment "you assume that everyone will react the same way - that being that they will not be racist in a public facility" tells me you still don't get the point. I never said people wouldn't behave in a racist way; what I said was, in response to your assertion that many such instances would go unreported is that lawsuits such as these have conditioned people to run to the media and get a lawyer when things like this occur... so there would be far fewer unreported instances than there would've been 20 or 30 years ago.
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| 21. Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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You're not playing the game right.
You have to know where the pieces are on the chessboard before you can move them.
You think that I live in a bubble because I stated that not everyone might have knowledge of that particular event? How do these two things correlate?
This happened (if we are talking about the same event) in 1994. I don't remember this event being on the news, but I remember the Berlin wall coming down on the news. Go figure. I was eight when that happened (the Berlin wall coming down) - but I never have been an advocate of following the news, mainly because of its biased nature. If that's ignorance, I guess that makes me ignorant. I was too busy working on my education at that time... homework, school, etc.
As for your age comment, I felt it was a bit rash on your part to take that sort of posturing with someone you do not know - I haven't had anyone tell me that unless they were at LEAST seven years older than me. I found it amusing and a little curious. I didn't think thirty-somethings hung out in here and touted the importance of keeping up with events on the news (such as the one in question). Do I have to have a news station preference too? Did I have to watch it on CNN? Or is there another station that I should have watched so that I may be less ignorant? Should I have read it in the paper? A magazine?
How do I not get the point? My whole statement to you was that it doesn't matter how you think people will act once they know that if they are treated unequally (in a racist fashion) they can sue the institution and get money for it. Not everyone was aware of that event and its consequences. Also, even if they were aware of that event, it may not have held permanently in their minds. A minority could encounter discrimination at a public institution now and still not prosecute. I hate to break it to you but there are ignorant people out there who do not know their rights. Go look up a video of a guy walking around asking girls if woman's suffrage is bad. Almost all of those women say yes - and this was on a college campus. There's another video of a guy walking around asking if people know the capital of Iraq (and that was 2006!!!), and one out of twenty knew the answer. How do you explain that? They watch the news?
We still have illiteracy in the US - what makes you think that everyone knows their rights - let alone how to sue?
I think the one living in a bubble here is you. |
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Marq(uistadorous)
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| 22. Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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This is pretty funny
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Slowpoke
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| 23. Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Legendary N8 wrote: | | You think that I live in a bubble because I stated that not everyone might have knowledge of that particular event? |
No, I didn't say that. Try to actually read what I say before reacting. My point was that anyone who was an adult in the 90's who didn't know of these events would've had to have been living in a bubble. It wasn't just "an event". It became part of the cultural landscape of race relations, just as Rodney King and Reginald Denny became symbols of the same.
| Legendary N8 wrote: | | I never have been an advocate of following the news, mainly because of its biased nature. If that's ignorance, I guess that makes me ignorant. I was too busy working on my education at that time... homework, school, etc |
That is SUCH a bullshit copout rationalization, and yes, it does make you ignorant. I don't what you're doing with your life now, but for most people school affords a lot more free time than when they actually have a real job and a real life, and yet many people still manage to notice what goes on in the world.
| Legendary N8 wrote: | | As for your age comment, I felt it was a bit rash on your part to take that sort of posturing with someone you do not know. |
I don't know why you consider it "posturing"... I was serious that I was trying to be nice and give you an excuse for not knowing about this stuff; but since you now admit to being ignorant-by-choice, you have my apologies and condolences.
| Legendary N8 wrote: | | I haven't had anyone tell me that unless they were at LEAST seven years older than me. |
Well, considering I can beat that by a factor of three, does that now mean you think I was justified?
| Legendary N8 wrote: | | I found it amusing and a little curious. |
A ha! Now it's my turn to act all insulted and indignant! How old did you think I am??? How dare you assume I'm your peer when you know nothing about me! Such brashness from a pup!!
I'm going to skip over the inflammatory baiting babble that followed...
| Legendary N8 wrote: | | A minority could encounter discrimination at a public institution now and still not prosecute. |
My bolding for emphasis... yes, of course they could. But this was not your original assertion that started this. It was the implication that unreported instances were rampant... since you now backtracked all the way from "Just IMAGINE how many go unreported!" to "Well, it COULD happen", I'd say we're now in complete agreement on this issue.
See, wasn't that easy? Let's all sing Kumbaya now...
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| 24. Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | No, I didn't say that. Try to actually read what I say before reacting. My point was that anyone who was an adult in the 90's who didn't know of these events would've had to have been living in a bubble. It wasn't just "an event". It became part of the cultural landscape of race relations, just as Rodney King and Reginald Denny became symbols of the same. |
Do you have evidence to support that it because part of cultural landscape of race relations besides the fact that it was covered by the news? That's a rather lofty statement there. I read what you say clearly, but I'm trying to get a feel if you actually have an argument, or are you just being argumentative.
Rodney King - absolutely. L.A riots - absolutely. There is no doubt in the symbolism and historical impact. But I dare you to ask someone who is <20 who Rodney King is and what the L.A. riots were about and see what you get (and don't do it on the net cause they will just look it up). Some symbolism there. Some historical impact.
| Quote: | | That is SUCH a bullshit copout rationalization, and yes, it does make you ignorant. I don't what you're doing with your life now, but for most people school affords a lot more free time than when they actually have a real job and a real life, and yet many people still manage to notice what goes on in the world. |
When I was in school (granted I was in a private school), we had homework every single day. Not to mention I was also taking care of my grandmother who was recovering from lymphoma. Where would I find the free time again? Then again, I didn't think people (like you) bothered to keep up with historical events unless it suited your interests. At least that is what I have frequently observed.
| Quote: | | Well, considering I can beat that by a factor of three, does that now mean you think I was justified? |
Let me get this straight - you are 21 years older than me? Now mind you I am going to say this very, very slowly:
Don't.you.have.better.things.to.do.like.worry.about.your.IRA? Shouldn't you be retired in the Bahamas or something? If I were in my 40's, the last thing I would be doing is arguing in a forum thats based on a game to someone thats young enough to be my son. The irony is that if you think you are so right, and given that you should be a lot more mature than I, you should simply just let my (ignorant comments) go. That is, unless you think you could be... wrong...
| Quote: | A ha! Now it's my turn to act all insulted and indignant! How old did you think I am??? How dare you assume I'm your peer when you know nothing about me! Such brashness from a pup!!
I'm going to skip over the inflammatory baiting babble that followed... |
Actually, if anything, I am your superior. At least from an educational standpoint. I'll let your graying slide, considering that I wouldn't want that as a marker of my "peerage" anyway. See above with regard to your age. You're stumbling over many social faux-pas that I figure someone of your age would be well aware of - like not even bothering to argue with someone like me if you think you are right... or even not choosing to participate at all - but alas, you went there. That might be a little immature for someone old enough to be my parent, wouldn't it?
| Quote: | My bolding for emphasis... yes, of course they could. But this was not your original assertion that started this. It was the implication that unreported instances were rampant... since you now backtracked all the way from "Just IMAGINE how many go unreported!" to "Well, it COULD happen", I'd say we're now in complete agreement on this issue.
See, wasn't that easy? Let's all sing Kumbaya now... |
I never said the word "rampant", nor did I imply it. How would that be backtracking? And yes, just imagine how many go unreported. You ever experienced racism first hand? I have. You think that blacks are the only ones that get discriminated against? Now, lets try this one again...
The one living in a bubble is you. |
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| 25. Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| The Internets wrote: | | Random Argument Appears! Command? |
Run.
| The Internets wrote: | | You cannot run from this battle! |
Item -> Inverse Echo Screen
| The Internets wrote: | | No such item |
Damn.
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| 26. Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| Legendary N8 wrote: | | When I was in school (granted I was in a private school), we had homework every single day. |
Oh, the inhumanity! Seriously, what DO you do with your life now?
| Legendary N8 wrote: | | Don't.you.have.better.things.to.do.like.worry.about.your.IRA? |
It's done quite fine, so no, I don't need to worry about it at all.
And you know, for someone who had such a bug up their ass about what you perceived as an age diss before, you're slinging such blatant hypocrisy here, it's quite amusing.
| Legendary N8 wrote: | | the last thing I would be doing is arguing in a forum |
This isn't an argument. It's a history lesson.
| Legendary N8 wrote: | | Actually, if anything, I am your superior. At least from an educational standpoint. |
I doubt it... because most Ph.D.s don't take such apparent pride in their willful ignorance.
| Legendary N8 wrote: | You ever experienced racism first hand?
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Of course,
| Legendary N8 wrote: | | You think that blacks are the only ones that get discriminated against? |
and absolutely not.
Is there a point to either question, or are you looking for some kind of tangent to go off on to continue this, since I already said we're now in complete agreement on the original issue?
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| 27. Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Anyway, hopefully you all enjoyed the video somewhat. It was quite an interesting experience on our part, I must say.
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| 29. Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Legendary N8 wrote: | | Slowpoke wrote: | | Legendary N8 wrote: | | It happens in more places than just Denny's. Just imagine how many go unreported. |
Probably less than you think, since the Denny's lawsuits clued people in that getting-refused-service = big-bucks. |
You assume that people possess universal, instantaneous knowledge.
If that were the case, places like Utah wouldn't exist. |
Hey, I happen to live in Utah (granted I am not a mormon, and I live in Salt Lake City, by far the most liberal of all Utah). So don't generalize.
Also, watching this video got my blood boiling enough to cause me to actually post (I usually just lurk). Those people were very unprofessional and ignorant. I am glad you filmed it and put it up for everyone to see. You should encourage everyone you know to boycott that theatre. |
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| 30. Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:46 am Post subject: |
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This was an out-of-town visit, and since then our local arcade has actually acquired that very machine, so, as much as I refused to go back there after that, it's not something that I can openly encourage my friends to do on a regular basis, or anything.
Kinda funny that there are places like that though...
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