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Soul of Ignorance Trick Member
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20. Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Cryosleep: Harder to score. The end does make you move quite a bit, too. (Current Score: 99.38)
Xepher: Harder to... no, this really isn't that hard... sh!t like The Game and On A Day Like Today is harder than this.
(Current Score: 3g)
I guess Cryosleep is easier to BS, though... IDK _________________
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0rion Trick Member
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21. Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Considering that even on ITG using a C-mod disqualifies you, Chaos gets a little boost in difficulty. It's still only a 9, though.
I'd rate Bag as a Zodiac- or We Know What To Do-style 9.
Xepher, discounting its horribly late syncing, is a So Deep-style 9.
Sakura is an 8. Even factoring in the slowdowns, it's easier than Across the Nightmare on both Heavy and Challenge.
FaxX Heavy is a borderline 10-11, while Challenge is a borderline 11-12.
Healing D-Vision Heavy is a perfect 10, while Challenge is a decent 12. To bad no one informed the step creators of how to write in 12/8 time. It would have made the fact steps a lot less convoluted (although just as hard). _________________
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22. Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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i seem to have somewhat different opinions for some songs than most people here. i think bag, æ¡ (Sakura), CHAOS heavy (expert, whatever), G2, MAD BLAST, and Stompin' at the Gotham should be 9s, but Xepher should be a 10, along with CHAOS oni, MAX 300, MAXX UNLIMITED (which isn't all that much harder than 300), PARANOiA Survivor, PSMH, Max. (period) oni, MAX 300 SMMM heavy, HDVH, 250bpm (J&S mix), Giudecca, Outer Limits (both Festival and UM steps), Insaner (LEDPM), and Grandolin. TLoM and FELMH (mostly because of the awkward reading speeds) are easy 11s; MAX 300 SMMM oni, Max. (period) oni, PSMO, and PARANOiA -Respect- are mid-range 11s, and FAXX (both difficulties), HDVO, and FELMO are hard 11s, with FELMO possibly in the 12 region (i can only beat easy 11s, ITG and otherwise, so anything higher is based on how i do on keyboard). that should be all the 10-footers (not counting Disney's Rave or DS feat DCT). |
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JasonTheGreater Trick Member
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24. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Kakuâ wrote: | You can't really rate the two. You fail LOM with 5 misses on Extra Stage which means it's pretty hard, and it's probably easier to fail it than Bang because you can get through it with like 30 misses.
But whatever |
Well, you can get through Legend of Max with like 30 misses as a regular stage, too, so I don't see how that makes it easier to fail than Bang.
Bang also has more steps and is a longer song than Legend of Max. _________________
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25. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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RBCF retunes Trick Member
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26. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Sir 0rion {DMC} wrote: | Zodiac- or We Know What To Do-style 9. | Since when are the two similar in difficulty?
Quote: | Xepher, discounting its horribly late syncing, is a So Deep-style 9. | If that's so, then the 30 BPM it has on So Deep would make it a 10.
Quote: | Sakura is an 8. Even factoring in the slowdowns, it's easier than Across the Nightmare on both Heavy and Challenge. | I disagree. ATN Oni is pretty much just trills, whereas Sakura involves some of the difficult movement most 10 footers do, especially at the end. No way in heck it's an 8. _________________
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JasonTheGreater Trick Member
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27. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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RBCF retunes wrote: | Sir 0rion {DMC} wrote: | Zodiac- or We Know What To Do-style 9 | Since when are the two similar in difficulty? |
Since they're both rated a 9
RBCF retunes wrote: | Quote: | Xepher, discounting its horribly late syncing, is a So Deep-style 9. | If that's so, then the 30 BPM it has on So Deep would make it a 10. |
I guess since Bag could be considered comparable to We Know what to Do, We Know what to Do should be rated a 15 since Bag is a 10.
RBCF retunes wrote: | Quote: | Sakura is an 8. Even factoring in the slowdowns, it's easier than Across the Nightmare on both Heavy and Challenge. | I disagree. ATN Oni is pretty much just trills, whereas Sakura involves some of the difficult movement most 10 footers do, especially at the end. No way in heck it's an 8. |
Difficult movement? I can't recollect a single spot in Sakura heavy where there is "difficult" movement _________________
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RBCF retunes Trick Member
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28. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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JasonTheGreater wrote: | RBCF retunes wrote: | Sir 0rion {DMC} wrote: | Zodiac- or We Know What To Do-style 9 | Since when are the two similar in difficulty? |
Since they're both rated a 9 | WKWTD=Low end 9
Zodiac=High end 9
Quote: | RBCF retunes wrote: | Quote: | Xepher, discounting its horribly late syncing, is a So Deep-style 9. | If that's so, then the 30 BPM it has on So Deep would make it a 10. |
I guess since Bag could be considered comparable to We Know what to Do, We Know what to Do should be rated a 15 since Bag is a 10. | Weak analogy, considering WKWTD's 12th notes are not that much faster than Bag's 24ths. You're comparing Xepher to So Deep, which is already a hard 9, and the fact that it's faster would up the rating to a 10.
Quote: | RBCF retunes wrote: | Quote: | Sakura is an 8. Even factoring in the slowdowns, it's easier than Across the Nightmare on both Heavy and Challenge. | I disagree. ATN Oni is pretty much just trills, whereas Sakura involves some of the difficult movement most 10 footers do, especially at the end. No way in heck it's an 8. |
Difficult movement? I can't recollect a single spot in Sakura heavy where there is "difficult" movement |
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flcl573 Trick Member
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29. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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The end doesn't have any difficult movement, especially when compared to any 10. _________________
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30. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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PSMO is NOT a 12. _________________
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JasonTheGreater Trick Member
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31. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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RBCF retunes wrote: | JasonTheGreater wrote: | RBCF retunes wrote: | Sir 0rion {DMC} wrote: | Zodiac- or We Know What To Do-style 9 | Since when are the two similar in difficulty? |
Since they're both rated a 9 | WKWTD=Low end 9
Zodiac=High end 9 |
I happen to find Zodiac to be very easy. Your opinion on what delegates a "high end" or "low end" 9 doesn't necessarily mean other people would agree with you. The point of the matter is, they're both 9s.
RBCF retunes wrote: | I wrote: | Quote: | Xepher, discounting its horribly late syncing, is a So Deep-style 9. | If that's so, then the 30 BPM it has on So Deep would make it a 10.
I guess since Bag could be considered comparable to We Know what to Do, We Know what to Do should be rated a 15 since Bag is a 10. | Weak analogy, considering WKWTD's 12th notes are not that much faster than Bag's 24ths. You're comparing Xepher to So Deep, which is already a hard 9, and the fact that it's faster would up the rating to a 10. |
When did I ever compare Xepher to So Deep? You don't have to make up things to try to justify a point.
The end of Sakura has like...one crossover. That's hardly difficult. _________________
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AFIpunk572 Trick Member
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32. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Xepher = 8
Psmo=11
Faxx/Felm= Doesnt deserved to ranked, But if so 12/11
Chaos = 11
Sakura = 9
Bag = 7 |
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TPG é©å½ Trick Member
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33. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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first of all, just because other DDR 10's are harder, does not mean Sakura is an 8 or 9. i think it's an easy 10, but not a 9 for sure. THe speed alone would make it not an 8 (even tho ATN is) and the slow down (even tho it's only two arrows) make slightly harder still, then add in the jumps, the short streams throughout the entire thing, and the small slowdown stream at the end make it a very easy 10, but not a 9.
Moving on... Bag is meant for x1. on x1 it is a 10 for sure, putting it on x3 or something is like having Max.(period) on c250 (which is possible through stepmania.) It defeats the purpose of the song.
I also am very surprised that people have been calling HDVO a 12, and even a 13! WTF? I passed HDVO before FELME. The arrows B4U speedup (lolz) are just slightly higher in number than that of Sync (for extreme) and Colors(for extreme). the chaos is not that much more than those. I would definately call this an 11 tho, because of the streams during the 360 BPM part.
Now that i'm done ranting, here's my list:
9's: none. they're all 10's (why do you think Konami rated them 10's?)
10's: Sakura,MAX 300 (SMMM), HDVE, CHAOSE, Max 300, MaxX Unlimited, TLoM, XepherOni, Stompin at the Gotham. PARANOiA Survivor, PSMH, Genom Screams Doubles FTW! XD!
11's: HDVO, FelmE, Max300 (SMMM) Oni, Max.(period), PSMO, PARANOiA ~Respect~, CHAOSOni, Grandoilin (it's got real weird timing, but hey, GO *60* GO was only a 12 because of the weird timing right?)
12's: FAXX, FAXXO (it seems weird to put theese both on the 12 rating even tho Oni is DEFINATELY harder, but it's not quite a 13, and the Expert on isn't an 11 fo sho.)
13's: FELMO. Truly an amazing accomplishment to even pass this sonovabech.
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RBCF retunes Trick Member
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34. Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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One crossover, huh? You know how many Max 300 has? MaxX Unlimited? _________________
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36. Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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TPG é©å½ wrote: | 13's: FELMO. Truly an amazing accomplishment to even pass this sonovabech. | Um...okay...first off, what can you even pass on DDR/ITG? Because if you truly think Sakura and Bag are 10's then something's clearly wrong here. Oh, and FELMO isn't nearly hard enough to be a 13. I could clear this on R21 most likely and I'm hardly doing 12's. |
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37. Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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JasonTheGreater wrote: | Kakuâ wrote: | You can't really rate the two. You fail LOM with 5 misses on Extra Stage which means it's pretty hard, and it's probably easier to fail it than Bang because you can get through it with like 30 misses.
But whatever |
Well, you can get through Legend of Max with like 30 misses as a regular stage, too, so I don't see how that makes it easier to fail than Bang.
Bang also has more steps and is a longer song than Legend of Max. |
Well that's why I'm differentiating the two. LOM itself would probably be a solid 10 while LOM on Extra Stage would probably be boosted in its rating because of the easiness to fail relative to other songs. That's why I rated Chaos quite high because the only way you can play it is with 1-4 lives. If it was playable on regular stage I'm sure it would be a 9. _________________
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38. Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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DarkCore wrote: | TPG é©å½ wrote: | 13's: FELMO. Truly an amazing accomplishment to even pass this sonovabech. | Um...okay...first off, what can you even pass on DDR/ITG? Because if you truly think Sakura and Bag are 10's then something's clearly wrong here. Oh, and FELMO isn't nearly hard enough to be a 13. I could clear this on R21 most likely and I'm hardly doing 12's. |
DarkCore don't underestimate FELMO. I can pass Faxx on a good run at home, and pass some 12's in the arcade but I highly doubt you could pass FELMO. FELMO is just.....stupid. Stepjumps galore. I honestly think it should be a 12, a hard 12, maybe an easy 13, but its still very difficult.....in a stupid way..... _________________
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39. Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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TPG.Krazy Kevin wrote: | DarkCore wrote: | TPG é©å½ wrote: | 13's: FELMO. Truly an amazing accomplishment to even pass this sonovabech. | Um...okay...first off, what can you even pass on DDR/ITG? Because if you truly think Sakura and Bag are 10's then something's clearly wrong here. Oh, and FELMO isn't nearly hard enough to be a 13. I could clear this on R21 most likely and I'm hardly doing 12's. |
DarkCore don't underestimate FELMO. I can pass Faxx on a good run at home, and pass some 12's in the arcade but I highly doubt you could pass FELMO. FELMO is just.....stupid. Stepjumps galore. I honestly think it should be a 12, a hard 12, maybe an easy 13, but its still very difficult.....in a stupid way..... |
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The stepjumps aren't that hard, and I've seen the chart. I'll play it on R21 sometime next week; if I can memorize the slowdowns and stuff, then I have it. This is totally not a 13. Although ITG songs don't have crazy stops and slowdowns and everything, this still isn't making it a 13. I'm sorry, but yeah. o.O" |
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