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DarkCore · Trick Member Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada

I find crossovers in DDR really easy, but during fast ITG crossover streams I can't get them. Probably because there's too much friction on my pad restricting my movement. I'll try Mythology and The Beginning when I get my Blueshark. Maybe a more sensitive pad is what I need?

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Chaos Master · Trick Member Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Location: Westerville, OH

i have currently passed 2 11s (Charlene, Robotix), but have tried many others. personally, i think Clockwork Genesis is a lot harder than you guys seem to think. i don't know why, but i just can't pass it. also, i don't think Utopia is nearly as easy as others have said; the right-arrow part is fairly annoying and the huge stream kills me, but i can do the streams in Delerium just fine (until i run out of stamina 2/3 of the way through or so). i've nearly passed Infection (i hit a few too many mines), and i think it's the next easiest after the two i've done, followed by Xuxa (which i would've passed if my pad didn't rotate too much one time). i almost passed July once, but died due to stamina, and since then, i have kept screwing up on the candles. i think Soapy Bubble and Disconnected -Hyper- deserve to be 11s, and same with VerTex (which i would have passed had i not put on a speed mod that made me inable to read the last part). everything else i either haven't tried yet or agree with the general consensus.

DarkCore · Trick Member Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada

Clockwork Genesis is just a series of gallops. When I finished it I was like "What the hell, no death run or anything?" Have You tried Xuxa? It's a pretty easy 11 to do in my opinion.

snakebite019 · Trick Member Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Location: Deltona Florida

Xuxa is fun.
Clockwork Genesis has that weirdest off beat stepchart EVER
Pandemonium (hard) isnt so (hard)
Utopia is easy yet fun
Charlene is too easy for an 11
July is annoying
! is a pretty hard 11
Infection is easy if you know how to pick up your feet
Mythology has too many crosovers
The Beginning....should not be the beginning of your 11s
Vertex^2 is easy if you can read it
Hardcore Symphony could very well be the hardest 11, and might be able to pass off as a 12
Destiny is pretty hard. very similar to July in some places
Robotix is easy if you just keep your cool during the fast part.
Monolith is hard. its not too hard to pass but those jackhammers are pretty fast. scoring on it is really hard

theres my brief list of 11s
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DarkCore · Trick Member Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada

Honestly, I take back the whole Liquid Moon being harder than Soapy Bubble. It's just the beginning of Liquid Moon that's hard. That was a stupid thing for me to say. If Liquid Moon was as hard as the beginning part all of the way through, it would be harder than Soapy Bubble but otherwise no.

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I think Pandy Hard could be a 12. My scores on HotN, Vertex, Tell, and Delirium are all 6-9% higher than my Pandy Hard score. My Euphoria score is about 2% higher.

Yes, I have a higher score on Euphoria Ex than on Pandy Hard.
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davidyko · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:29 am Post subject:

0rion · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject:

The order from hardest to easiest 11s, in my opinion:

Hardcore Symphony: Could easily pass for a 12. It's way harder than Delirium, Go 60 Go, Determinator, and VerTex, in my opinion.

Monolith: Could also pass for a 12. No really hard streams, but there are about a million crazy candle-steps and awkward hand plants.

July: The only other one that might pass for a 12. This is a lot more borderline because honestly, it's a lot easier to pass than it seems, but it's still very difficult.

The Beginning: This is one of those songs that kicks your ass over and over again until one day you just barely manage to beat it. After that, it becomes incredibly easy. Once you know how to do the end, this song is your oyster.

Pandemonium Hard: Fast. Hard. Lots of streams. Lots of jumps.

Mythology: Deservingly upgraded from a 10. I personally think the ending is much easier than The Beginning's ending (wow... an ITG-related oxymoron), but let's not forget the "jumpjumpjumpjumpjumpjump" parts.

VerTex2 Hard: See Pandemonium Hard. Faster, but not quite as painful.

!: Although it's not too hard, I wouldn't have minded leaving it as a 12.

Infection: I had no problems with this (odd, because I play 1x, so you'd think this would be an issue for me), but it's still a tad tricky. Plus it can be hard to score on.

Destiny: Beginning stream and the end stream. Not quite on Hardcore Symphony's level, but still tough.

Clockwork Genesis: This song is actually really easy to fake your way through. Bad for scoring; EASY to pass.

Frozen Fire: This was really badly off-sync on my ITG2 Beta version, but yeah, this is about right for it.

Utopia: The only reason this isn't further down the list is because of that stream in the middle. For most people, it is their first real taste of 16th-step bursts.

Xuxa: The part toward the middle is really hard to do when you're first learning it, since those streams and jumps can come out of nowhere, but other than that, it's not much harder than a hard 9 or 10.

Charlene: Another "mine" song. It was the first 11 I passed, because the song isn't particularly fast or hard in any way. Still an 11, though.

Stop! and Go: This was rated an 11 on ITG2 Beta, so I'm calling it that for now. Still, it's a very easy 11, and the stops can really be predicted even if you haven't played the song before.

Robotix: By far the easiest 11, in my opinion. It just doesn't have any difficult enough streams, jumps, or mines to qualify it as anything more than a borderline 11. Granted the speed-up might be hard if you don't know to simply "walk" it, but I saw some kids randomly flail on it and still get through it once.

So, there you go.
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I played Liquid Moon last week and got 97.
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Trexxen · Trick Member Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN

What is the least Stamina-Killing song on the list? I've heard VerTex^2 Hard and Robotix, but I'm not sure...I still get slightly winded after QoL of course so I know I'm probably not ready, but practice makes perfect eh?
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davidyko · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:20 am Post subject:

Hmm...none of the 11s are really not stamina draining, but if you can dodge mines, I'd go with Charlene. If you can't, then go with Utopia. Note that this is for ITG 1 only, I have no idea about ITG 2.
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