Put Your Faith In Me: Konami "original"?

Spider-Dan · Trick Member Joined: 31 Jan 2002

I realize that this question probably should have been asked about 5 years ago, but I just recently thought about it and decided to post.

I'm sure you're all familiar with Put Your Faith In Me, which (if I'm not mistaken) was originally released in DDR 2nd Mix sometime around 2000. As I recall, it's listed as a "Konami Original Remix". However, there's an interesting passage in the song. First, take a listen to the passage from PYFIM:

http://venomweb.150m.com/ddr/pyfimexcerpt.mp3

Now compare it to this excerpt from the Street Fighter III Arranged album, released in 1997. This is from Elena's theme, "Tomboy (huge side)":

http://venomweb.150m.com/ddr/elenaexcerpt.mp3

And finally, listen to this excerpt from the Bust-A-Move soundtrack, released sometime around 1998. This particular clip is from Pinky's theme, "I Know":

http://venomweb.150m.com/ddr/pinkyexcerpt.mp3

I'm certain that the Elena track predates all the others, but I don't think that's the original source. In any case, why would Konami list someone else's song as an "original" remix? I don't believe they do that with other similar songs.

By the way, there's another interesting comparison, though this one might just be a really weird coincidence. First, from think ya better D (2000ish):

http://venomweb.150m.com/ddr/tybdexcerpt.mp3

And next, from Groove On Fight (1997):

http://venomweb.150m.com/ddr/gofexcerpt.mp3

violently average · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:09 am Post subject:

HOLY CRUD!!!

That was officially the weirdest thing EVER!!! I used to have my faith in Think You Better D... tear tear....

Is it plagerism?? Because Think You Better D's vocalist sounds a lot like U1...

Agent J · Trick Member Joined: 29 Feb 2004 Location: Dimension X

Whoa. o_o I knew about PYFIM and "I Know" sharing that rap, but Elena's theme from Street Fighter 3 as well? Interesting. The SF3 and PYFIM versions are almost identical, but the Bust A Move one is somewhat different, too. Now I really want to know more about that rap, like who the guy who did it is, but I have no clue how to go about looking. Searching for terms like "'Put Your Faith in Me" DDR 'I know' 'Bust a Move'" doesn't get me anything, and searching for the lyrics in the song only brings up, well, various sites with the full lyrics for PYFIM or I Know.

I think I remember hearing about the think ya better D/Groove On Fight one a long time ago, but I never had an opportunity to hear the music from Groove On Fight until now. Strange!

Zukin-Man · Trick Member Joined: 25 Nov 2002 Location: War Agony

Reenee · Trick Member Joined: 21 Nov 2003

So it's a sample. Big whoop. DDR and Pump share the same rap lyrics from Gorgeous 2012 and the Celebrate Nite lyrics are in a Beatmania IIDX song.

dj_sammylvr03 · Trick Member Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Location: Connecticut, US

Interesting.
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Spider-Dan · Trick Member Joined: 31 Jan 2002

Sex + Violence · Trick Member Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Location: SHOOTING A HO.

The TYBD lyrics are samples. I've seen 'em everywhere.

But Konami most likely payed for all of this stuff or they'd be sued by now.
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RBCF retunes · Trick Member Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Location: 2P side

Nicx · Trick Member Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Location: hawaii

yeah its just sampling, i've have known about this forever.

just like you can hear paranoia samples in a million other songs.

they probably just use royalty free samples which means they don't have to pay to use it.