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triad.spacefight Trick Member
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Arctic Wolves Trick Member
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21. Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, the thread was going fine until this post:
[DoD] OmegaSox wrote: | Why does this thread exist?
It's going to break down to Roxor's charts suck ass zomg. |
Look, you've made it clear: you disapprove. You've made it clear three times now. We get it. If it's to be locked, it will be locked, but you're three times not adding anything useful by this point.
Quote: | (read: same pattern consistantly throughout 5 or more charts of the same difficulty level) |
Didn't know that was a criteria for this thread, seeing how it hasn't been mentioned anywhere else. Look, no one's bashing ITG as much as you'd love to think they are. Notice how people remark that it's mostly ITG1 songs with cut'n'paste syndrome? RoXoR is (was) extremely receptive to input from fans, and these sorts of comments, even if they are a little harsh, can only help them develop better stepcharts. And yes, I also realize that peoples' opinions of stepcharts has been made elsewhere and was available for RoXoR to check out. ITG2 showed a lot more variety in terms of stepcharts, and a lot of the guilty songs being mentioned here are ITG1. _________________
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Asymptote Trick Member
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23. Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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God I love it, you accuse us of being the whiners, AND you're all pissed because you think someone isn't letting you present your opinion. Oh noes.
Irony^2
[DoD] OmegaSox wrote: | Not to mention most of the people critizing stepcharts here only do so because they played them on Stepmania and thought they could magically pass 12's. |
Proof plz, kthx
otherwise stfu
[DoD] OmegaSox wrote: | And typing in all caps to be sarcastic is funny. gg |
I know, you don't have to tell me how awesomely funny I am
[DoD] OmegaSox wrote: | When did people stop having fun with dance games and decide to be a bunch of whiny ass fanboy faggots? |
That makes no sense... because a game isn't perfect and we feel like discussing what we consider some flaws, that means we've decided to "stop having fun with dancing games"? And "fanboy"? Where the hell does that fit into the picture? If we're pointing out what we feel are some flaws, what does fanboyism have to do with anything? I thought, you know, fanboyism was the act of being blindly and pointlessly loyal to your all-perfect game. Surely discussing your game's flaws is the opposite of fanboyism? Why not think about what you are saying and form something reasonable to say before pulling a bunch of words out of your ass.
But to answer your question, not to bash the game ITG itself in anyway because I love it, but I honestly feel that it certainly didn't help by fooling a ton of people into thinking DDR is "too easy" for them, which I put in quotes because last time I checked, Extreme was pretty hard to 90% AAA, much less the entire game.... and then Konami buying ITG just made that worse for a good chunk of people, who probably now refuse to play DDR cause they always go on about how easy it is, yet I doubt a good chunk of them haven't even AAA'ed 10% of the game. Speculation, yes, but I feel it's a quite reasonable one.
And now look what you've made me do. The topic is starting to sway just like you warned, which it wouldn't have done if a certain poster who will go unnamed didn't incite people to. I wonder, who could it be? _________________
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24. Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Tyrgannus wrote: | 3 16ths starting on the 8th beat.
This pattern is used.....like.....freakin......always |
[DoD] OmegaSox wrote: | no one has offered examples of overused steps |
Hmmm..... _________________
AA Bob wrote: | Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9. |
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25. Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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So far thats the only one. _________________
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26. Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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IHYD.Blake wrote: | So far there are none. | FXY! _________________
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27. Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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How about step jumps. Probably 2 out of every 10 itg songs has a run of step jumps. |
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Tyrgannus Trick Member
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28. Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Agreed. ITG1 + Kyle Ward = step jumps.
He got less jumpy in ITG2 thankfully _________________
AA Bob wrote: | Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9. |
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AA Bob Trick Member
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29. Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Agreed on step jumps. I used to dislike them (and thus, many ITG1 charts) until I learned how to do them right. _________________
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30. Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yay. People agree with me on the step jumps. |
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Dir en X Basic Member
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31. Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Something I see used a lot is a burst of 5 16ths using up and right, up and left, ect.
I also agree with Remember December being very repetitive, But then again the song itself is repetitive, so it fits I guess. _________________
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32. Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:03 am Post subject: |
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I remember a lot of people complaining that a lot of ITG1 stepcharts had a lot of left-facing patterns (RDUL, RLUD, etc.) and almost no right-facing patterns. _________________
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RBCF retunes Trick Member
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33. Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Dakota wrote: | Same old quick non-crossover stream
pause. jump
Same old quick non-crossover stream
pause. jump
Same old quick non-crossover stream
That crap is overused in too many 10's and 11's... | You just described the end of Vertex^2. _________________
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34. Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Repeated in-place jumps (bad for songs that don't go with headbanging), 5-step LRLRL patterns, cut-and-paste skips (that aren't even flipped/mirrored at all), many songs that tend to back-and-forth facing either front-left or front-right, without much mixing up thereof, and pivots that use one foot on one arrow at a time, and the other back and forth on two. Somehow, it's almost always the same foot, too (left on one, right between two). Freeze-step, freeze-step happens quite a bit as well, not to mention having a few freezes in irrelevant 1/16's (even Zodiac doesn't hold it long enough to justify it's existance, and it's not particularly confusing in Funk Factory either... though at least that -looks- cool on 2.5-3x).
Anybody else notice that the second choruses on 90% of the songs is just "the first chorus on mirror"?
Also, I think it would be a trip to have a marathon course based on directional mods. Am I alone there? Or perhaps a "Easy" stage course, filled with add-mods (Big, Skippy, etc.)... |
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