FAQ about Arcade DDR

icker · Trick Member Joined: 14 May 2005

What would be the best method of shipment if I were to get a machine and how much would it cost?
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lump-dog · Basic Member Joined: 17 Sep 2006

I just spent 2 hours looking over the forum. I learned a ton, but couldn't find an answer to my problem.... I hope this is the right place to ask it.

I just purchased a 3rd mix plus machine from a private party. It worked great in the home, until I moved it to my Skating Rink (argggh!). When plugged in and turned on, I get a Drive Check OK, Check Sums OK, then get this message:

Hard-Ware Error -3N
Stage PCB Initialize Error
Please Call Attendant

This is as far as I've gotten.

I also notice when the game powers up, the arrows on the right side of the stage light up momentarily, while those on the left side never do.

I was hoping it was simply a loose connection somewhere, so I went through all the "easy" ones in the cabinet. No luck. I checked all the connections between the cabinet and the stage. No luck. I checked the
stage pcb's themselves, no luck. I then suspected I had a bad stage pcb, so I switched them just to check. No luck, the right side of the stage still lights up, and the left side won't. I suppose since the screen states it's a "stage pcb INITIALIZE error", the problem lies somewhere on the main board?

What's next? Any suggestions?

I also need to get a manual in English. Is there somewhere I can download one?

Ho-Man · Contributor Joined: 04 Mar 2002 Location: Noblesville, IN

First off, it's perfectly normal for only the 2P side of the stage to light up during boot, so that's not a problem.

I've seen this error before. Of course I've seen a lot of errors before and I don't take very good notes. I'll try my best to help, but it might take me a couple tries before I come up with a solution. :)

I'm pretty sure this is just a loose or miswired connection. First off, check the stage connections on the System 573.

Sorry I don't have a better picture handy. That picture is actually showing something else, but the plugs I want you to check are partially in it also. That picture shows two of the four connections: the two plugs labeled 1P and 2P at the top of the picture. There should be two more above those. Make sure these are plugged in and plugged into the correct ones.

Next you should check the umbillical lines. Open both sides of the umbillical between the cabinet and the stage and make sure the plugs are snug. There is also a connection between the two halves of the stage. There are also connections where the umbillical plugs into an interface board under the upper right hand panel on the 1P side.

Make sure all of those connections are solid. If they are and you're still having problems, then we'll move on and see what else could be causing your issue.

I don't always have time to check these forums regularly, so PM me if you need more help.

rekcah14 · Trick Member Joined: 16 Aug 2006

Ive got a question..Is there a code for speed up in any of the arcade versions? *I mean like the Left+Down+Right Code to change the modes*

What Im looking is for the code for speed. If there is one

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willko · Basic Member Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Location: west virginia

i'm sorry if this has already been answered, but i couldn't find it anywhere in the forums

do new arcade pads generally need to be broken in? my local arcade just got a new machine(it looks brand new), but gets somewhat frequent pad misses on certain arrows. we're not sure if the machine just needs broken in a little more, or if something's been damaged.
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b-aki · Trick Member Joined: 30 Nov 2002

is it possible for a ddr machine to rust? im planning on buying one and keeping it in a built garage.

Ho-Man · Contributor Joined: 04 Mar 2002 Location: Noblesville, IN

frzamonkey · Trick Member Joined: 15 Mar 2002

i just moved some games that had been exposed to sea air for a few years. holy crap! lots of rusting. rusting on the BOARDS. So, moisture = BAD. ddrs are no exception.

Also, just in case this has not been mentioned, if you do not know what you are doing regarding monitors (high voltage issues) you can be seriously hurt. Monitors have enough juice to potentially kill you, so, be careful.

Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

Mistaire McKickass - please read and update the FAQ appropriately, thankee.
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Yeehaw McKickass · Contributor Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Location: Chicago Area

Quoth the FAQ currently:

Q: Can I put an arcade disc in my computer and play it?
A: No. This would be similar to trying to play a Gamecube game in a PS2.

I'll modify it to this when I get home (I'm at work and about to leave):

Q: Will an arcade disc work in anything other than an arcade cabinet it.
A: No. Older mixes (on the 573 board) discs won't function any setup other than a 573 board. PC's can access some of the information, but not play the actual game. DS Fusion and DDR Supernova are locked to yadda yadda yadda....

Gotta go.
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Yeehaw McKickass · Contributor Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Location: Chicago Area

On the rusting thing. If you're in an area where it snows and salt is laid down on the roads and sidewalks, that can be tracked in and will corrode screws and other parts of the pads.

This generally isn't a problem if you're keeping up on your daily/weekly maintenance.

CUTRISS: FAQ IS UPDATED, PLEASE REPOST TO FAQS SECTION FROM CONTRIBUTOR'S FORUM. Also pm' to tell you this.
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Dai101 · Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject:

Hi guys, i got a cuestion.
I've just found the DDR SN manual in which came te tech specs and wiring and i was wondering, is the same wiring that in older non betson cabinets? I mean, the JAMMA and stuff is wiring in the same way?

Thanks, read you later.
P.S. If some one got the wiring schems. of older cabinets could share it

Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

Yeehaw McKickass · Contributor Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Location: Chicago Area

Dai101 · Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject:

CreatorThomas · Trick Member Joined: 21 May 2003 Location: Fort Wayne, IN

anybody have any clue as to what that pcb is that plugs into the controller port of the ps2 does? it's in the top schematic picture. i'm betting they were going to use that for the memory cards, since many parts of it are labeled with MC in their name (mc-s pcb, mc-pwr, mcif1 and mcif2). it had the port to power them and the interface for each slot.

i remember reading in the memory card not supported thread that both usb ports were used so they couldn't do it like they did on previous ddr's, but if anybodys ever examined psx memory card slots, they share an awful lot of pins with the controller port, so i'm going to guess they had the implementation in place, they just don't want to spend the extra money to build parts for a machine they've already sold (i know we all want them, but many arcades wouldn't purchase them unless they were free)

just my thoughts, it just intrigued me

Dai101 · Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject:

Hi guyz!!
One question, i've read the thread about the replace of the CD-ROM unit, have search in my local stores for the ones that have been testad but got no luck finding one, so i ask you about the ones that i got in my local stores:
http://www.digitalife.com.mx/digitalife.php?page=1&idTipoProducto=42&tipoProd=Lectores%20CD-ROM%20y%20DVD

Or i have to go to a PC junkyard to search for another?

Read u' later.

Yeehaw McKickass · Contributor Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Location: Chicago Area

They all look like they'd work, but the prices are astronomical on them.

Try tigerdirect or newegg before going with there.

I need to get some time to try to make sense of the wiring diagram. For all the technical know how I've gained, I never learned to READ A FREAKING WIRING DIAGRAM

For those wondering, If I need to know what's up, I'll trace the ends of the wires.
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