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stupid_systemus
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420.  Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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next up:
Andamiro's Pump it Up division merges with Konami's Bemani Games to create 18-step double mats for new PIU vs. DDR/ITG game
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| 421. Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| stupid_systemus wrote: | next up:
Andamiro's Pump it Up division merges with Konami's Bemani Games to create 18-step double mats for new PIU vs. DDR/ITG game |
Technomotion?
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cfusionpm
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| 422. Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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you've never seen technomotion?
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| 423. Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| grumbles wrote: |
How would you guys feel if you went to the store to buy a new pair of shoes, and there was only one pair to choose from? |
Sure would make shoe shopping easier. 
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social life ninja supreme
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| 426. Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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I HATE YOU KONAMI! JUST BECAUSE YOU STARTED DANCING GAMES DOESN'T MEAN EVERYONE ELSE IS "COPYING" YOURS!
I mean seriously, come on! That's such a lame excuse to get rid of ITG. That's like Need For Speed suing Mario Kart: Double Dash because both games have a steering wheel and gas/brake.
Andamiro has 5 panel, and 9 panel didn't do so well, and I don't think anything else would work, so what could they have possibly done other than "rip off" the 4-panel design?!
...and for those thinking Konami is going to continue ITG, do you really think it's going to do well? Fascination Maxx is retarded, and a game with 100+ stepcharts like that will make me vomit. I don't think they'll hire all of Roxor's employees, either.
Just give up, everyone. Dancing games are dead thanks to asshole Konami.
edit: Oh and I'm not an ITG fanboy. I just really hate DDR because Konami doesn't give two shits about it's development, and as of now, neither do I. In The Groove may not have been perfect, but at least it was good to see a company that actually knew what everyone wanted and worked their asses off to achieve it.
My rant ends here. I hope you DDRites enjoy your boring rhythm game complete with annoying, high-pitched J-pop titles and crappy fast-paced trance music with pointless stepcharts spammed with unnecesary pauses and gallops that hardly even go with the music.
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cfusionpm
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| 427. Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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and the thread gets interesting again 
seriously though, untill any other official announcement is made, theres really no need for this to remain open.
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| 428. Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Konami:
Please don't become like EA did when they got the exclusive licence for the NFL.
Please continue to innovate and add great features to DDR.
Thanks!
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| 429. Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| stu is koo wrote: | | J-pop titles |
What's so bad about J-pop?
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| 430. Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| stu is koo wrote: | JUST BECAUSE YOU STARTED DANCING GAMES DOESN'T MEAN EVERYONE ELSE IS "COPYING" YOURS!
I mean seriously, come on! That's such a lame excuse to get rid of ITG. |
The lawsuit was about Roxor using Konami's hardware to run ITG, not just that ITG was a similar game. If ITG had come out as a dedicab in the first place, there probably wouldn't be a lawsuit, for the very reasons you gave.
Just so everyone's clear, the lawsuit was about patent infringement, not copyright infringement.
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social life ninja supreme
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| 431. Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| I ⥠Pie~Extra Cheese Mix~ wrote: | | stu is koo wrote: | | J-pop titles |
What's so bad about J-pop? |
It's annoying as fuck, all they sing about is a bunch of teenage drama bullcrap that no one cares about, the vocals are so high pitched even the male vocalists sound like 12 year-old girls, and if you're playing one of the stupidest-looking games in the world and some people hear that shit, I can easily understand why they would make fun of you.
Assuming you don't live in Japan, that is, since everything else in Japan is a LOT weirder than DDR. |
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Reenee
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| 432. Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| ^ A new savior appears. Is he a bad enough dude? |
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TheManator
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| 434. Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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I'd rather play J-Pop rather than some crappy US artist.
And now, to keep the topic on. |
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| 435. Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Char wrote: | | Scintilla wrote: |
Er, doesn't it say "for sale AND USE in Japan only"? |
If I sell you a bike I can write "For sale and use only by people named Nigel" but that doesn't mean you riding it is illegal. |
ill explane this in a bit more depth (though my limy friend char is correct)
when konami licensed the music they signed a contract saying THEY woudlnt sell the game outside of where the licnesed the game to (in most cases japan) restrictive licenses such as that do not transfer in either the japanese OR the american legal system (and even if they did its only a civil penality not a criminal one) further more even IF such a transfer of property WAS illegal in japan it STILL woudlnt matter once it left japanese sovergin space ( porn is illegal in many countries in the middle east but middle eastern porn made in those countries is still legal here in america)
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| 436. Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | My rant ends here. I hope you DDRites enjoy your boring rhythm game complete with annoying, high-pitched J-pop titles and crappy fast-paced trance music with pointless stepcharts spammed with unnecesary pauses and gallops that hardly even go with the music. |
Here's why I don't care either way about ITG: I'm not a hardcore/elite player--and never will be a hardcore/elite player--and so I rarely play the Expert level charts. I don't want hands (adding them in as an option is better than making them required), I don't want mines (again, adding them in as an option is better than making them required), I don't want excessive speed runs (I don't play faster than 190bpm songs), I don't want excessive freeze crossovers (stepping "late" to the music isn't fun), and I don't want to be stepping every miniscule note of the music (I'll play Beatmania IIDX if I want to play every note). Clearly, ITG at the Expert level isn't my game.
But if ITG stays, I'll stick with the Hard charts that play like longer versions of DDR stepcharts... oh yeah, and if ITG stays, they should add a feature that shows who made the charts before picking a song so certain step artists' charts can clearly be avoided.
As for the Stops and Gallops in DDR, Mines and Rolls in ITG work the same way--they are both equally annoying most of the time and are just a way of artificially adding difficulty.
And, while I am certainly not a fan of all J-Pop songs on DDR, some of them like Door of Magic and Love Love Shine are actually decent songs, as is the True (Love) Love song in SuperNOVA. Oh, and ITG2 did introduce its share of "bubble gum" pop with the introduction of Bambee, Lynn, and Ni-Ni songs... even DDR didn't have [i]that[/] much bubble gum pop in any single mix. |
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| 438. Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: |
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He's just saying that because he finally gets to play a (shitty cabinet too) 4th Mix machine...
Anyways, keeping the lights..erm, topic off, I agree that some J-Pop music can get annoying; I really don't play any of the BeForU/Riyu songs...except Break Down!, but stuff from pop'n that was ported to DDR, I loved almost all of it - but call me biased since I have pop'n CS mixes galore and can't get enough of it, but whatever.
Again, stops, freezes, hands, mines, and the such are not really 'innovations' - they may change the gameplay a bit, but not really new. That's like calling mods as if they were innovations - stuff new would be like anti-gravity moves or panels on the side. And please, no crossing of stuff from other franchises (like DMX or PPP, please). |
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| 439. Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| TheManator wrote: | | Again, stops, freezes, hands, mines, and the such are not really 'innovations' - they may change the gameplay a bit, but not really new. |
For what it's worth, I think that hands and mines allowed step designers to make fairly difficult stepcharts - that is, the ones you see in the 10 to 11 range on ITG - without having to resort to 300 BPM death runs. Twilight and One False Move are good examples of a tough song that's not just 900 arrows sneezed all over the place.
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