Roxor lawsuit settled, Konami inherits ITG franchise

Jayden Hakrodan · Trick Member Joined: 17 May 2006 Location: Asheville, NC

...Wonderful.. now I get to rely solely on Stepmania to challenge me. Oh well, neither Roxor or most step artists have a clue what the hell they're doing anyways.

I liked In The Groove. I still do. I like DDR too. I don't lean to either side - they're both good in my eyes. But really now, In The Groove provided the challenge I needed when a huge majority of DDR's songs were simply too easy. This isn't to say that if In The Groove continues it will be terrible, of course, but now it's hard to say what will be happening. All I know is that I'm going to be buying In The Groove for the PC asap now since an In The Groove 2 for the PS2 seems very unlikely.

IHYD.Blake · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:

Cartoonist · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject:

ITG = Heavily modified SM
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CubsWoo · Trick Member Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: St. Charles, IL

The way this entire ITG saga has come about really cements something in my mind:

The ITG team, first and foremost, are gamers. This is a double-edged sword.

They are gamers in that they were/are part of the community. They know what people want to see, want to be challenged by, want something fresh and new. With that, ITG was born.

I remember back in early 2004 sitting at the BZ in Naperville, IL after a set of Extreme and someone who frequented the arcade came up to me and asked me a bunch of questions about what I wanted in a dance game. What he had in mind for such a dance game, and would I play something that isn't DDR.

That someone was Ryan McKenna, aka 'Plaguefox' aka 'that creepy guy who likes to IM me out of nowhere with random things until I block him.' I answered what I could, chatted a while and we got to the topic of legality. I asked if Konami knew about it, if it would be ok to put out another game, all of that stuff.

Big smile on his face, he said sure, no problem, he and his team were all clear on that end. Pretty soon after that my turn was up and I went back onto Extreme, but that's stuck with me ever since the inception of ITG.

That ITG was created by a team of gamers. Not a team of businessmen, or a team of lawyers, but by gamers.

And while gamers may have a leg up on the community side of things, they may also get blindsided by the business end. I have no question that this was the flaw in the ITG plan.

#Infinity · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: San Diego, CA

Ha, this technically means ITG is no longer a domestic dancing game!

Really, I just hope Konami doesn't completely DDR-ify the game by turning everything easy, replacing the Extrememusic treasure with IIDX crossovers, and making all the hard stuff all Chaos/Felm-like, which they probably won't if Roxor is still offering support.
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Kilroy(ZTC) · Trick Member Joined: 04 Mar 2005

I would have difficulty believing Konami would bother making ITG games without the ITG music artists. I wonder what the likelihood is that kyle ward et al would be taken on by konami. Anyways, I plan on making use of R21 more than anything else right now.

DJTyrant · Maniac Member Joined: 25 Jan 2002 Location: Ventura, CA

This makes me really really sad, I love ITG and DDR, but I felt DDR was not really inovating or changing dance games at all :/.

I can only hope for the best at this point.
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CubsWoo · Trick Member Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: St. Charles, IL

Ronso · Basic Member Joined: 02 Apr 2006

coming soon in 2007
DDR groove
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supptrashcan · Trick Member Joined: 18 May 2006

sorry but there have been way more creative names earlier on in this thread...

koffan · Trick Member Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Location: Sacramento

Hmm.. Well, honestly, the only reason I'm affected is the fanbase of ITG. I don't care much for ITG, but where will the fans go? Hopefully Konami will do something about it. I like DDR, and will play it no matter what happens, but if Konami does nothing for the fanbase of the game they destroyed, they're truely a cruel company.

Being optimistic and knowing Konami to do otherwise, they'll conjure up something juicy in the future. Maybe not the near future, but sometime in the future. It's good to see justice has been served. I'm kinda surprised that it didn't go completely out of hand.

I have a bit of a feeling that some of RoXoR's stepmakers and maybe even some musicians may come to Konami. That would be good, since although I don't care much for ITG's music or stepcharts, then I'll be happy. Unless they sabotage it.
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ItsDrew · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject:

Oh My God Its Konami!
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Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

Wolfman Jake has said the most correct thing in this entire thread (aside from myself).

PrinceOfPersia, you know nothing of IP law.

You guys are silly if you think that, in settling, Konami would simply take the "In The Groove" name and allow Roxor to start over again without it. The press release didn't need to be specific and itemize every single thing Konami is getting here - by saying that Konami has acquired the IP, it is proper and correct to assume that this means *everything* - source, materials, the whole shebang (other than stuff which was licensed to Roxor, which cannot be transferred without the consent of all parties involved).

There are more armchair lawyers in this thread than on Slashdot. The only problem is, Slashdot's armchair lawyers are actually reasonably good at it.

AA Bob · Trick Member Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Alllll right!

If ITG and DDR were basically the exact same game (with the same kind of music and same difficulty) and attracted the same kinds of people, I would expect Konami to squash ITG now. But there are a lot of people who play ITG and not DDR. It seems to me that it would be better for Konami to hire the ITG artists and continue ITG, since by doing so it would be making money off of both fanbases.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject:

If anyone cares to look it up I'm sure I've posted before that something interesting would happen after the date of trial discovery (Oct. 17th), and even longer ago something about a settlement with Konami acquiring Roxor. I think I'll wait for LostSage to come tell us about stuff before speculating about what happens. I know that if ITG dies out and there's no dedicab within reasonable distance that'll basically be the end of dancing games for me (and several others). PIU is a fun diversion, but the lack of focus on timing simply isn't my kind of game. Hopefully I'll still have reason to play though; I'd rather not have to resort to real exercise like running laps around campus to avoid becoming enormous.
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