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Weston
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20.  Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| QWERTYkid911 wrote: | | Then I guess MAX. (period) isn't a remix of MAX 300 because it doesn't have 300 in the title. |
Yes, MAX. (period) is a remix of MAX 300... and Fascination ~eternal love mix~ doesn't have MAXX in the title, but it's a remix of Fascination MAXX.
However, MAX 300 and MAX. (period) are both MAX songs, not 300 songs.
By that logic and following the same naming conventions, Fascination MAXX and Fascination ~eternal love mix~ are both Fascination songs and not MAX songs.
If you still accept that Fascination MAXX is a MAX song, then you must also accept that Fascination ~eternal love mix~ is too.
Then there is the alternative. You can say that ANY Konami original song with the word MAX in it is a MAX song. That would mean Fascination MAXX, PARANOiA survivor MAX, and PARANOiA MAX ~Dirty Mix~ are all MAX songs. In this case, MAX is not a series of songs, but just an extension to a song title, which usually is tacked onto a song that is usually difficult.
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| 21. Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Weston wrote: | | If you still accept that Fascination MAXX is a MAX song, then you must also accept that Fascination ~eternal love mix~ is too. |
It sure the hell is, in essence. Seriously, who gives a crap what the name is, it's all about the song itself.
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| 22. Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Etsomuko wrote: | | Chaos Master wrote: | | shurf wrote: | | If it wasn't a MAX song, what would be the new MAX for SuperNOVA? I thought every new DDR since DDRMAX 1 came with a new MAX song. |
does the oni chart of SMMM count? |
Only for us. No pun intended. |
it took me way too long to get that pun
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Weston
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| 23. Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Tekkie wrote: | | It sure the hell is, in essence. Seriously, who gives a crap what the name is, it's all about the song itself. |
If we didn't care what the name is, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The whole idea behind this thread is whether or not Fascination MAXX is a MAX song based on it's title. Let's say that the song was just called Fascination when it was introduced. It surely wouldn't be considered part of the MAX series. Why?...
The PARANOiA series used to be the boss songs of the pre-DDRMAX era. When DDR evolved to DDRMAX and beyond, the MAX series became the new boss series. Nobody considers any of the MAX songs to be part of the PARANOiA series just because they're boss songs.
With DDR SuperNOVA being the latest evolution (worldwide release, new hardware, new character look) of DDR, Fascination is the new series of boss songs. Just because it has MAXX in the title, doesn't mean it has to be part of the MAX series. The title is misleading. |
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| 24. Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Weston wrote: |
With DDR SuperNOVA being the latest evolution (worldwide release, new hardware, new character look) of DDR, Fascination is the new series of boss songs. Just because it has MAXX in the title, doesn't mean it has to be part of the MAX series. |
That could be true. Does that mean we'll be seeing a SuperNOVA 2 with like Fascination Evolution or something (yes, I made that song up)? I kind of didn't want the Max series to end they were so good (not Max. though).
But who knows for sure... |
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Weston
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| 25. Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| shurf wrote: | | the Max series to end they were so good (not Max. though). |
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tekkie
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| 26. Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Weston wrote: | | Tekkie wrote: | | It sure the hell is, in essence. Seriously, who gives a crap what the name is, it's all about the song itself. |
If we didn't care what the name is, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The whole idea behind this thread is whether or not Fascination MAXX is a MAX song based on it's title. Let's say that the song was just called Fascination when it was introduced. It surely wouldn't be considered part of the MAX series. Why?...
The PARANOiA series used to be the boss songs of the pre-DDRMAX era. When DDR evolved to DDRMAX and beyond, the MAX series became the new boss series. Nobody considers any of the MAX songs to be part of the PARANOiA series just because they're boss songs.
With DDR SuperNOVA being the latest evolution (worldwide release, new hardware, new character look) of DDR, Fascination is the new series of boss songs. Just because it has MAXX in the title, doesn't mean it has to be part of the MAX series. The title is misleading. |
But since we don't know if the MaxX was a mislead like in the Paranoia mix and we don't know if there'll be an onslaught of Fascination mixes or more Max's then we can't label it yet.
I personally don't think you can come up with many decent names all with the word "fascination".
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| 27. Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| J-POP_FOR_LIFE wrote: | | Etsomuko wrote: | | Chaos Master wrote: | | shurf wrote: | | If it wasn't a MAX song, what would be the new MAX for SuperNOVA? I thought every new DDR since DDRMAX 1 came with a new MAX song. |
does the oni chart of SMMM count? |
Only for us. No pun intended. |
it took me way too long to get that pun |
Would you feel better if I had written "us" in caps?
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QWERTYkid911
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| 28. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Weston wrote: | | QWERTYkid911 wrote: | | Then I guess MAX. (period) isn't a remix of MAX 300 because it doesn't have 300 in the title. |
Yes, MAX. (period) is a remix of MAX 300... and Fascination ~eternal love mix~ doesn't have MAXX in the title, but it's a remix of Fascination MAXX.
However, MAX 300 and MAX. (period) are both MAX songs, not 300 songs.
By that logic and following the same naming conventions, Fascination MAXX and Fascination ~eternal love mix~ are both Fascination songs and not MAX songs.
If you still accept that Fascination MAXX is a MAX song, then you must also accept that Fascination ~eternal love mix~ is too.
Then there is the alternative. You can say that ANY Konami original song with the word MAX in it is a MAX song. That would mean Fascination MAXX, PARANOiA survivor MAX, and PARANOiA MAX ~Dirty Mix~ are all MAX songs. In this case, MAX is not a series of songs, but just an extension to a song title, which usually is tacked onto a song that is usually difficult. |
Exactly the point I was making.
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| 29. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| QWERTYkid911 wrote: | | Weston wrote: | | QWERTYkid911 wrote: | | Then I guess MAX. (period) isn't a remix of MAX 300 because it doesn't have 300 in the title. |
Yes, MAX. (period) is a remix of MAX 300... and Fascination ~eternal love mix~ doesn't have MAXX in the title, but it's a remix of Fascination MAXX.
However, MAX 300 and MAX. (period) are both MAX songs, not 300 songs.
By that logic and following the same naming conventions, Fascination MAXX and Fascination ~eternal love mix~ are both Fascination songs and not MAX songs.
If you still accept that Fascination MAXX is a MAX song, then you must also accept that Fascination ~eternal love mix~ is too.
Then there is the alternative. You can say that ANY Konami original song with the word MAX in it is a MAX song. That would mean Fascination MAXX, PARANOiA survivor MAX, and PARANOiA MAX ~Dirty Mix~ are all MAX songs. In this case, MAX is not a series of songs, but just an extension to a song title, which usually is tacked onto a song that is usually difficult. |
Exactly the point I was making. |
YOU MEAN MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE ISNT A MAX SONG????
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| 30. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| Pop'n Usagi! wrote: | | YOU MEAN MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE ISNT A MAX SONG???? |
Yeah I know! My life's been a lie! But anyway, Fascination ~ELM~ is just a remix of Fascination MAXX.
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| 31. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| Tekkie wrote: | | But since we don't know if the MaxX was a mislead like in the Paranoia mix and we don't know if there'll be an onslaught of Fascination mixes or more Max's then we can't label it yet. |
We did have Fascination ~eternal love mix~. If you saw this song only, there is no reason to believe it is part of the MAX series. The title itself states that it's a mix of Fascination. I predict that in the next DDR game, we will have another boss song with the word Fascination in the title.
| Tekkie wrote: | | I personally don't think you can come up with many decent names all with the word "fascination". |
Konami named a whole bunch of PARANOiA songs.
| QWERTYkid911 wrote: | | Exactly the point I was making. |
If you read my entire post, I made two points:
1) Fascination MAXX and Fascination ~eternal love mix~ are both part of the Fascination series because of the way they are named, following your idea of how MAX 300 and MAX. (period) are named.
2) A MAX song needs to have a song title appended with MAX (Maximum Overdrive doesn't count... it isn't a Konami original), but that does not make it part of the MAX series. The MAX series is a collection of songs that are either remixes or sequels to MAX 300.
I think this whole discussion is confusing... so I want to clarify what I have been trying to say from the first post I made up to now:
There are MAX named songs, and then there is the MAX series of songs. I believe what the original poster wanted to know is if Fascination MAXX was part of the MAX series. To this, I say no. It is part of the Fascination series, but it can be considered to be a MAX song while Fascination ~eternal love mix~ is also part of the Fascination series but it isn't a MAX song. |
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| 33. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Wow, you are all nerds. Put your overanalysis efforts into curing a disease or something.
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| 34. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| FaxX is a Max song. god damn. |
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| 35. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| Pop'n Usagi! wrote: | | Wow, you are all nerds. |
No............................we're freaks.
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| 36. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Pop'n Usagi! wrote: | | Wow, you are all nerds. Put your overanalysis efforts into curing a disease or something. |
No... you can do that for us though.
Everyone has their own thoughts and I'm done trying to convince people towards my idea. I guess when the next DDR is released we'll have a better understanding. |
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| 37. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Weston wrote: | | Tekkie wrote: | | But since we don't know if the MaxX was a mislead like in the Paranoia mix and we don't know if there'll be an onslaught of Fascination mixes or more Max's then we can't label it yet. |
We did have Fascination ~eternal love mix~. If you saw this song only, there is no reason to believe it is part of the MAX series. The title itself states that it's a mix of Fascination. I predict that in the next DDR game, we will have another boss song with the word Fascination in the title.
| Tekkie wrote: | | I personally don't think you can come up with many decent names all with the word "fascination". |
Konami named a whole bunch of PARANOiA songs.
| QWERTYkid911 wrote: | | Exactly the point I was making. |
If you read my entire post, I made two points:
1) Fascination MAXX and Fascination ~eternal love mix~ are both part of the Fascination series because of the way they are named, following your idea of how MAX 300 and MAX. (period) are named.
2) A MAX song needs to have a song title appended with MAX (Maximum Overdrive doesn't count... it isn't a Konami original), but that does not make it part of the MAX series. The MAX series is a collection of songs that are either remixes or sequels to MAX 300.
I think this whole discussion is confusing... so I want to clarify what I have been trying to say from the first post I made up to now:
There are MAX named songs, and then there is the MAX series of songs. I believe what the original poster wanted to know is if Fascination MAXX was part of the MAX series. To this, I say no. It is part of the Fascination series, but it can be considered to be a MAX song while Fascination ~eternal love mix~ is also part of the Fascination series but it isn't a MAX song. |
There is no Fascination series any more than there's a B4U or Sexy Planet series. 2 songs is not a series.
Also, the word Fascination isn't as aesthetically pleasing as Paranoia. Fascination Dirty mix doesn't sound as good.
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| 38. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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List of official Maxes IIRC:
Max 300
MaxX Unlimited
The Legend of Max
Max.(Period)
Max 300(Super-Max-Me Mix)
Maximizer
And of course, Fascination MaxX is indeed a MAX. Fascination~Eternal Love Mix~ is a remix of FaxX so it is too essentially a MAX. As said in the post above, Fascination is not a new series just because two songs have the word "Fascination" in it.
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| 39. Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't seem to me like Maximizer should be considered a Max song.
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