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Wolfman Jake
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620.  Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Mikl wrote: | MY GOD you guys type way too much. Settle down a little and just enjoy the game.
All I want to know is if every song in the game has the right syncing now. |
Most songs do yes, though many will say the game is not slighlty late. Some songs, like Red Zone in particular, are now quite a bit late.
AA Bob, just because you learned the BPM changes in PSM before you had the skill to FC it doesn't mean that learning to read it was never a hurdle at all. You may consider learning the BPM changes to be "less" of a challenge, but that still doesn't mean it is not a challenge. Consider someone naive to DDR with a lot of physical talent. After learning to read the arrows and properly respond to them, as all persons who begin the game must, they might very quickly be able to tackle things as physically demanding as PSM (or at least MAX 300, which requires few (if any) advanced techniques like turns). You can't simply judge "challenge" by how long it takes you in particular to overcome it, since it is always going to be a relative concept.
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| 621. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Wolfman Jake wrote: | | AA Bob, just because you learned the BPM changes in PSM before you had the skill to FC it doesn't mean that learning to read it was never a hurdle at all. |
It was a hurdle for about 15 minutes.
| Wolfman Jake wrote: | | Consider someone naive to DDR with a lot of physical talent. After learning to read the arrows and properly respond to them, as all persons who begin the game must, they might very quickly be able to tackle things as physically demanding as PSM (or at least MAX 300, which requires few (if any) advanced techniques like turns). |
How many of these people do you suppose there are in the world? Four? How nice of Konami to design the 10s to be more challenging for them.
Actually, I'd be surprised if there were even four of those people. In fact, I think I'll be so bold as to say that any player who can pass PSM has been playing DDR for long enough that they have no problem recognizing arrow patterns.
For the vast majority of DDR players, the main initial challenge is learning how to read the arrows. Soon they overcome this and move up toward Heavy, and the game becomes more physically challenging.
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| Emptyeye wrote: | | So um, is it bad that awhile ago I was watching Family Guy, and when Quagmire came on, I thought something to the effect of "Whoa, It's AA Bob!" (I don't remember if the exact thought was "It's AA Bob" or "It's AA Bob's avatar", but I don't think it matters in this case)? |
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DDR_mastor1
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| 622. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| AA Bob wrote: | | Wolfman Jake wrote: | | AA Bob, just because you learned the BPM changes in PSM before you had the skill to FC it doesn't mean that learning to read it was never a hurdle at all. |
It was a hurdle for about 15 minutes.
| Wolfman Jake wrote: | | Consider someone naive to DDR with a lot of physical talent. After learning to read the arrows and properly respond to them, as all persons who begin the game must, they might very quickly be able to tackle things as physically demanding as PSM (or at least MAX 300, which requires few (if any) advanced techniques like turns). |
How many of these people do you suppose there are in the world? Four? How nice of Konami to design the 10s to be more challenging for them.
Actually, I'd be surprised if there were even four of those people. In fact, I think I'll be so bold as to say that any player who can pass PSM has been playing DDR for long enough that they have no problem recognizing arrow patterns.
For the vast majority of DDR players, the main initial challenge is learning how to read the arrows. Soon they overcome this and move up toward Heavy, and the game becomes more physically challenging. |
you are sooooo f.ucking off topic.
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AA Bob
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| 623. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| DDR_mastor1 wrote: | | you are sooooo f.ucking off topic. |
And you, in addition to being off-topic, aren't even contributing anything.
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| Emptyeye wrote: | | So um, is it bad that awhile ago I was watching Family Guy, and when Quagmire came on, I thought something to the effect of "Whoa, It's AA Bob!" (I don't remember if the exact thought was "It's AA Bob" or "It's AA Bob's avatar", but I don't think it matters in this case)? |
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Spy47
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| 624. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| AA Bob wrote: | | DDR_mastor1 wrote: | | you are sooooo f.ucking off topic. |
And you, in addition to being off-topic, aren't even contributing anything. |
Oh yes, and I think you really need to CALM DOWN. |
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AA Bob
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| 625. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Spy47 wrote: | | AA Bob wrote: | | DDR_mastor1 wrote: | | you are sooooo f.ucking off topic. |
And you, in addition to being off-topic, aren't even contributing anything. |
Oh yes, and I think you really need to CALM DOWN. |
Me? Why? I think I'm pretty calm right now.
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| Emptyeye wrote: | | So um, is it bad that awhile ago I was watching Family Guy, and when Quagmire came on, I thought something to the effect of "Whoa, It's AA Bob!" (I don't remember if the exact thought was "It's AA Bob" or "It's AA Bob's avatar", but I don't think it matters in this case)? |
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Auspher
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| 626. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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WOW, this is exactly why I didn't want this little debate to start...
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Liquid Zero
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| 627. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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(EDIT: Nevermind.)
| Wolfman Jake wrote: | | Mikl wrote: | MY GOD you guys type way too much. Settle down a little and just enjoy the game.
All I want to know is if every song in the game has the right syncing now. |
Most songs do yes, though many will say the game is not slighlty late. Some songs, like Red Zone in particular, are now quite a bit late.
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This is WITH the patch? Aww, come on, so this means some songs are still off?
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| 628. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, that's enough debate folks. If there's anything left to be said about the patch, let's get back on track there please.
If you want more debate, take it to the ITG forum and let Kiba deal with it.
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Spy47
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| 629. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Sure. I really want to know if Healing-D-Vision stepchart was fixed with 12nd's instead of 8th's and 16th's. 
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This is WITH the patch? Aww, come on, so this means some songs are still off? |
God, more patches. |
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Weston
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| 630. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Besides the songs being synced up, have any of these issues been addressed:
1) Is ALL MUSIC still locatated in a terrible location on the menu?
2) Does the songwheel remain sorted after the song is over?
3) Are the Style Select and Music Selection menus still slow/choppy?
4) Is there still the Extra Stage groove radar glitch?
5) Can you collapse the sorted song menu trees?
6) Does the salamander still pop up after a 500 combo?
7) With a new record on a song, but failing another in the same game, do you get to enter your name? |
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Auspher
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| 631. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Weston wrote: |
6) Does the salamander still pop up after a 500 combo? |
Huh?
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Weston
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| 632. Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Just checking if people were paying attention to the list. |
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b-aki
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| 633. Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| Weston wrote: | 1) Is ALL MUSIC still locatated in a terrible location on the menu?
2) Does the songwheel remain sorted after the song is over?
3) Are the Style Select and Music Selection menus still slow/choppy?
4) Is there still the Extra Stage groove radar glitch?
5) Can you collapse the sorted song menu trees?
6) Does the salamander still pop up after a 500 combo?
7) With a new record on a song, but failing another in the same game, do you get to enter your name? |
1. yup
2. yup
3. no, scroll's faster.
4. dunno
5. huh?
6. lol
7. nope |
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| 634. Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Some off-sync songs don't really bother me - I mean, most of us didn't have problems with the tons of off-sync songs in Extreme, and I mean, I don't know how many of us cared that Stay and 20, november were offbeat...Red Zone, though? They should have surveyed the DDR Freak messageboard for feedback, or at least just taken a quick look at what people were saying. I guess it's going to be like Hyper Eurobeat now, a decent song that is off as hell.
However, I'm glad to hear that most of it is fixed - Centaur was UNACCEPTABLE when I first played it, as was AA. |
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| 635. Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| jason shoo-da-loos ⪠⫠⪠wrote: | | 5. huh? |
If you go into alpha sort, open the letter B, it used to be you could highlight B again and hit the select button to collapse the listing again. If you were scanning through the folders and didn't see anything you liked, it made it a faster way to move through the folders sometimes.
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Spy47
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| 636. Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Sorry for being insistent, but what about Healing-D-Vision!?!?!?!  |
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Matthew Coutts
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| 637. Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Just been told that the update discs for DDR/DS Supernova will update the version number to "2006072500" which is displayed in the top left hand corner of the screen when credit has been inserted.
So now everyone should be able to tell when there nearest machine has been updated.
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TimeSpaceMage
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Maxx!
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| 639. Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Can anyone confirm that Red Zone is late?
The first report I heard of it being late was from turbo jjjang. He's definitely a good player, but I recall him saying pre-patch that Red Zone was absolutely on-sync, and I have to disagree. I may not be the absolute best player, but I have a pretty good idea of when a song is off, and boy was Red Zone off.
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