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460. PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who knows. It might actually be really decent. Those disks better be shipping faster though, so we can get some vids and stuff. Did anything else change? Or just the song and the offbeat steps?
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Fascination(Eternal Love Mix) sure has a hell of a lot of Voltage and Stream..by far the most of any Max song(Though I wonder why they took MaxX out of the title.. E19.gif ). It's not Max.(Period), but hey, a remix of a Max will work too.

EDIT:Not to mention this remix is by 2MB, the same guy who DID Max.(Period). Though I still wonder about the remix on the V-RARE..

And yes, another song for my pleasure, Xopher. E15.gif
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(Though I wonder why they took MaxX out of the title.. E19.gif )

Well, "Matsuri (J-Summer Mix)" doesn't have "Japan" in the title either.

(though I've read that that one came first anyway...)
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Thank, Vybz. I believe you now. I'm not, however, sorry for being extremely cautious about this whole thing, since DDR hoaxes have happened before, AND that initial screenshot raised a lot of legitimate red flags. I await a video to hear at least part of this new offering.

Maxx!, don't play the lotto today. I'm completely right about where boss songs sort on the US 200630300 revision. I didn't know that the JPN version did it differently, though.

As for WHAT this song is, I'm guessing Fascination is more like "survivor" songs from EXTREME. In other words, Fascination (eternal love mix) is probably NOT intended to be a MAX song. Fascination PARANOiA or Fascination Trip Machine, anyone?
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I hear that Flow ~True Style~ is selectable now also. Is this true?
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If it's not, I ask Konami: "WTF?" Also, can the people with access to the so-far only known upgraded machine check the Challenge courses and see if a new Boss Rush has cropped up to accomodate Fascination ~eternal love mix~, given that it is a new boss song.
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Fascination (Eternal Love Mix) better be difficult, as in at or above Fascination Maxx. I want some super tough 10s.
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467. PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kalek wrote:
I hear that Flow ~True Style~ is selectable now also. Is this true?


Yep, and the challenge steps are ok, but the two parts that actually speed up were halfway descent(you should be the judge on that). As for Fascination, its alot more fun to play than FAXX, but the middle of the song will screw you up pretty bad, but you people might be able to get farther than I did(just remember, it starts off at 100 BPM).
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468. PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Say Vybz, got another question for you. Does Healing-D-Vision use 12ths now, and is it still a 9?
Man, this is sounding more and more cool. I just wish I had more frequent access to the game.
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469. PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfman Jake wrote:
As for WHAT this song is, I'm guessing Fascination is more like "survivor" songs from EXTREME. In other words, Fascination (eternal love mix) is probably NOT intended to be a MAX song. Fascination PARANOiA or Fascination Trip Machine, anyone?
Kind of what I thought... or Fascination will be a new series similar to how we have the PARANOiA, Trip Machine, and MAX series.
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Say Vybz, got another question for you. Does Healing-D-Vision use 12ths now, and is it still a 9?
Man, this is sounding more and more cool. I just wish I had more frequent access to the game.


Its the same(literally), but now, a little wierd though to play now because the end(in my opinion), I still have a problem in the end...its still a 9...
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Wolfman Jake wrote:

As for WHAT this song is, I'm guessing Fascination is more like "survivor" songs from EXTREME. In other words, Fascination (eternal love mix) is probably NOT intended to be a MAX song. Fascination PARANOiA or Fascination Trip Machine, anyone?


Nope, I'd consider it a full fledged remix of Fascination MaxX. 1, because it just makes more sense to be and 2, because the bpm clocks in at 100-200-400, just like the original.
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Max.(period) wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:

As for WHAT this song is, I'm guessing Fascination is more like "survivor" songs from EXTREME. In other words, Fascination (eternal love mix) is probably NOT intended to be a MAX song. Fascination PARANOiA or Fascination Trip Machine, anyone?


Nope, I'd consider it a full fledged remix of Fascination MaxX. 1, because it just makes more sense to be and 2, because the bpm clocks in at 100-200-400, just like the original.


I dunno. I'd say the exlusion of the word MAX is pretty telling. It'd be like a PARANOiA without the word PARANOiA anywhere in the title...just too odd. It's more like Fascination is a new boss series. FAXX is Fascination with a "MAX" flavor, while Fascination (enternal love mix) is Fascination with a different flavor. Perhaps more are on the way (not necessarily right away). Consider that FAXX also doesn't follow the MAX series' artist title convetions (i.e., using a final letter of some alphabet), and you kind of get the idea that it's a Fascination song first, and a MAX song second.
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Wolfman Jake wrote:

As for WHAT this song is, I'm guessing Fascination is more like "survivor" songs from EXTREME. In other words, Fascination (eternal love mix) is probably NOT intended to be a MAX song. Fascination PARANOiA or Fascination Trip Machine, anyone?


Nope, I'd consider it a full fledged remix of Fascination MaxX. 1, because it just makes more sense to be and 2, because the bpm clocks in at 100-200-400, just like the original.


I dunno. I'd say the exlusion of the word MAX is pretty telling. It'd be like a PARANOiA without the word PARANOiA anywhere in the title...just too odd. It's more like Fascination is a new boss series. FAXX is Fascination with a "MAX" flavor, while Fascination (enternal love mix) is Fascination with a different flavor. Perhaps more are on the way (not necessarily right away). Consider that FAXX also doesn't follow the MAX series' artist title convetions (i.e., using a final letter of some alphabet), and you kind of get the idea that it's a Fascination song first, and a MAX song second.


Hmm...since Matsuri(J-Summer Mix) was brought up, I think differently. JAPAN is not included, yet it's definetly a remix. And I don't think the artist having the final letter of an alphabet should have anything to do with it(Jondi & Spesh and 2MB). 100-200-400 is just another new artist.(line edited out for BS)

Maybe Fascination is a new series, maybe not. I think the only sure way to know is that we have to hear the song for ourselves and make the decision from there.

Where's Jiggens of Konami Staff? Maybe he can enlighten us.
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Ok, so now the big question:

When wil they start shipping MACHINES again?

We in Atlanta have been in limbo for months waiting...
and waiting... and waiting...
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the fact that 2MB remixed it and is also responsible for creating the song that is Max.(Period) only makes me sure that this must be a remix of a MAX song.


That logic fails so hard. No song is ever determined by that stupid criteria.
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the fact that 2MB remixed it and is also responsible for creating the song that is Max.(Period) only makes me sure that this must be a remix of a MAX song.


That logic fails so hard. No song is ever determined by that stupid criteria.


Now that I read that again, yeah, just forget I said that. riiight.gif

But I stand by everything else I said. What's your say on Fascination, Reenee?
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Max.(period), consider that MAX 300, MAXX Unlimited, and The legend of MAX were 1) arcade debutes, 2) THE boss songs of their respective arcade debutes, and 3) all Naoki's work. Jondi & Spesh did a remix which was an unlock for UM2, but it wasn't THE new MAX song for that mix; MAXX Unlimited was. MAX 300 SMMM was also a more direct remix of a MAX song (that song being MAXX Unlimited, despite what Jondi & Spesh think E10.gif), whereas the "big three" can be thought of more as major reinterpretations. Also, using 2MB for MAX. (period) is an acceptable exception to the convention as well, since MAX. (period) was 1) a home version debute and 2) not done by Naoki. 2MB is the artist title used for all of the special home version debutes of Usagi's remixes. That recognition is afforded MAX. (period) since at the time, it was the farewell boss song for DDR, and was "the perfect" omage to Asami, who had been one of the major producers for the home versions of the series to that point. It's too bad that the song sucks E15.gif
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I will cry if I go to Nickel City saturday and find the DDR Supernova with FaxX and Felm unlocked.
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Fredfredburger wrote:
I will cry if I go to Nickel City saturday and find the DDR Supernova with FaxX and Felm unlocked.


The songs aren't unlocked permanently, only for Extra Stage.
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