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Blink182house
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0.  Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: TX2000 underwire help! (pics) |
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Ok so my TX2000 pad the back arrow wouldn't work (the lights wouldn't even come on when i pressed it so i assumed after cleaning and checking the actual connection itself, that the wires underneath were seperated somewhere. I took it apart and accidentally the wires were caught on a desk when i moved it and they ripped. I am not sure which colors go to which, so please please please if you have ever opened a tx2000 (or a tx1000 is probably the same) help me out!
At the top of the loom the wires seperated are :
*these are the 3 wires going to the connector box for ps2 or serial, at the top of the loom exiting the box*
Light Green (seafoam kinda green)
Bright Yellow
Pink/Peach
The wires from the pads themselves are:
Dark Blue
Black
Yellow
White (2 joined together at a Y)
Now I dont understand how I can have 4 wires from the pads disconnected and then 3 from the loom first of all, wtf?! But yeah so any help to get me started would be great. I know a good bit of electrical and I know how to solder well and etc. These wires are crimped with heat shrink around them originally, so I plan on reconnecting them all via solder and heat shrink to make the best connection possible. I just need to know which wires connect to what, so any pics or diagrams would be amazing!
sorry pics are blurry and or white, my camera blows :
http://www.tractionoptional.com/gallery/albums/sell/ddr_001.jpg
http://www.tractionoptional.com/gallery/albums/sell/ddr_002.jpg
http://www.tractionoptional.com/gallery/albums/sell/ddr_003.jpg
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Blink182house
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| 1. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: |
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can nobody help?
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Schmichel
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| 2. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Many TX2000 had the problem with the back-arrow, there is a bug in the connector, not inside the pad. Try to open the connector carefully with a measurer, cut the black wire nealy the point where it comes into the connectorhousing an try to solder a new short wire from there to teh connector. I repaired several TX2000 and the error was always an interruption of the black wire inside the connectorhousing.
http://www.schmichelswelt.de/bilder/vp/tx2000verdrahtungsplan.png
Sorry for bad english.
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Blink182house
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| 3. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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sorry for bad english, heck man that was pretty damn good! and you're the only person to give me a response, let alone the entire diagram! i appreciate it a lot man, it was a waste to buy this thing and i havent even been able to use it yet. I'll try to checkout tomorrow what you're saying, so keep checkin this thread when it bumps to the top and i'll ask you some more specifics about the back arrow. Thanks!
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Blink182house
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| 4. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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alright, so i used your diagram and actually found the red w/white line wire was disconnected also and everything went together as your diagram said it would! THANKS! now im back to the original issue of the back arrow not working, now when you say the black wire you're saying bypass the little white breakaway connector?
So even though that black wire is simply the LED's ground wire, it will not allow the arrow itself to work during gameplay? I'm about to try and bypass the connector, if it doesn't work I guess i'll try bypassing the connector on the red wire as well. Please respond and let me know if I have your directions correct or if I'm misinterpreting something, thanks!
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Blink182house
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| 5. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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n/m went ahead and bypassed the white connector on the black wire and it lights up, about to staple the cover back on the bottom and test her out! thanks man, assuming this works, you REALLY helped me out!
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Blink182house
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| 6. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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ok no go, i bypassed the white connector on both black and red wires and if i press any other part of the pad the LED's light up on the down arrow, so that part works... but the arrow itself doesnt register. The connections are all good and everything... the only thing i could think of would be a break in the line somewhere in the chord going to the TV, or something to do with the little connector plate adn the foil on the bottom of the arrow itself. What else can I check to see how to fix this?
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mouseish
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| 7. Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| The wiring harness inside the pad is stupidly fragile. Especially at the two points where 3 wires connect in a "Y". Your best bet is to get the wiring diagram from lik-sangs website for the control box and rewire with real wire that won't break. Thats what Ive done, and thats one of the few reasons my TX-2000's are 2 and a half years old and still working |
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Blink182house
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| 8. Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| mouseish wrote: | | The wiring harness inside the pad is stupidly fragile. Especially at the two points where 3 wires connect in a "Y". Your best bet is to get the wiring diagram from lik-sangs website for the control box and rewire with real wire that won't break. Thats what Ive done, and thats one of the few reasons my TX-2000's are 2 and a half years old and still working |
Yeah i did some continuity testing and found out the yellow wire going to the back arrow (there're yellow and white wires), the white wire works fine because all the arrows use a white wire and they all connect (or atleast 2 of each arrows do), but the yellow wire runs to the front of the unit it turns into a black wire which i had just resoldered... did a continuity test from the arrow itself to there and BAD , so i put a whole new wire from ther to the pad and still didn't work, did a continuity test in the same spots... works fine, so then i cut the cable right before the serial connector for the little box the wire connects to and found the black wire same as inside the pad and did a continuity test... BAD, so then i soldered a new wire to there and it STILL doesnt work... so i'm thinking inside the serial connector it has a bad connection, but of course this is a plastic one not the metal kind you can open.
do you have info on where i can get the wire diagram for the control box and wire, liksangs website? any links man, thanks!
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