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meowingis4losers Trick Member
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20. Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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For me DDR and ITG are tied. I've never tried PIU, but I would like to. _________________
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#Infinity Trick Member
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22. Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: |
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ITG's the best hands down. It has the best music, best graphics, best gameplay engine, best challenge, best pretty much everything. DDR is pretty fun, but a lot of the songs I never want to play because they're far too easy or bland. I played PIU once, and all I can say is that stepping in the corners is awful. _________________
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XohshitztonysbackX Trick Member
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23. Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Hm...
DDR Graphics and songs
ITG2 Songs
PIU (New to this game)
I like all 3 if thats okay with you all.
Depends if I like the songs or not in those 3 games. |
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MaskedFalcon Trick Member
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24. Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: ... |
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I haven't played PIU long enough to make an informed opinion, and honestly I haven't even played all that much ITG. ITG works better than DDR as a competitive, high-level game (which explains the players, obviously better than I am, who contend that ITG is better "hands down" - apparently hands DO make a difference in ITG >_>), but I play dancing games for the music and the great stepcharts, which ITG sorely lacks. There are snatches of good songs, but there's very little variety to ITG's songlist, and the licenses meant to spice the game up are only mediocre. Moonlight Shadow is excellent (though on DDR as well), but I don't care much for Charlene - and even that is one of my favorite ITG songs - and Bambee's Bumblebee isn't as good as 17 sai, and overlaps with DDR anyways. I like DDR's more varied and better licensed songlist better. Perhaps a technophile would prefer ITG, but with More Than I Needed To Know, Kind Lady, La Senorita, Exotic Ethnic, and Sandstorm among DDR's numerous songlists, there's no contest for me.
In terms of stepcharts, we're talking the difference between Healing Vision's bland chart and Utopia's terrible one; the great, fluid Spin the Disc stepchart versus Charlene's decent but repetitive counterpart. Comparing DDR's Drifting Away heavy to ITG's Drifting Away hard, you have to wonder whether the Kyle Ward actually noticed you're facing the same direction throughout the entire piece - perhaps he was trying to give Phrekwenci's term "ETS syndrome" a new name (and K. Ward is one of the better step artists!). ITG's greater crime, though, is the lack of stepcharts I will return to over and over again - charts like I Was The One and Xenon singles and Be In My Paradise doubles that are just fun to do. There is no chart in ITG that I will play again and again. And that's why I'll pay the movie arcade a dollar for a round of DDR and ignore the 30 cent ITG at a nearby nickel arcade. |
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psycho442 Trick Member
Joined: 28 May 2006 Location: I'm not really sure :) |
25. Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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videoCWK wrote: | djpreacher wrote: | I've got to give all the props to DDR.
Konami is the first to make a dance machine and every other companies like Red Octane,Roxor Games and many others follow!
DDR is original and first in line! |
There's no proof that DDR was the first dance game. If I'm correct, no one is sure if DDR or PIU was the first one out. |
I believe PIU was first, and I bet others would agree with me. Yes, it's hard to believe, but it's a fact. _________________
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GotACoolName Trick Member
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26. Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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MaskedFalcon wrote: | I haven't played PIU long enough to make an informed opinion, and honestly I haven't even played all that much ITG. ITG works better than DDR as a competitive, high-level game (which explains the players, obviously better than I am, who contend that ITG is better "hands down" - apparently hands DO make a difference in ITG >_>), but I play dancing games for the music and the great stepcharts, which ITG sorely lacks. There are snatches of good songs, but there's very little variety to ITG's songlist, and the licenses meant to spice the game up are only mediocre. Moonlight Shadow is excellent (though on DDR as well), but I don't care much for Charlene - and even that is one of my favorite ITG songs - and Bambee's Bumblebee isn't as good as 17 sai, and overlaps with DDR anyways. I like DDR's more varied and better licensed songlist better. Perhaps a technophile would prefer ITG, but with More Than I Needed To Know, Kind Lady, La Senorita, Exotic Ethnic, and Sandstorm among DDR's numerous songlists, there's no contest for me.
In terms of stepcharts, we're talking the difference between Healing Vision's bland chart and Utopia's terrible one; the great, fluid Spin the Disc stepchart versus Charlene's decent but repetitive counterpart. Comparing DDR's Drifting Away heavy to ITG's Drifting Away hard, you have to wonder whether the Kyle Ward actually noticed you're facing the same direction throughout the entire piece - perhaps he was trying to give Phrekwenci's term "ETS syndrome" a new name (and K. Ward is one of the better step artists!). ITG's greater crime, though, is the lack of stepcharts I will return to over and over again - charts like I Was The One and Xenon singles and Be In My Paradise doubles that are just fun to do. There is no chart in ITG that I will play again and again. And that's why I'll pay the movie arcade a dollar for a round of DDR and ignore the 30 cent ITG at a nearby nickel arcade. |
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. _________________
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AA Bob Trick Member
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27. Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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GotACoolName wrote: | MaskedFalcon wrote: | I haven't played PIU long enough to make an informed opinion, and honestly I haven't even played all that much ITG. ITG works better than DDR as a competitive, high-level game (which explains the players, obviously better than I am, who contend that ITG is better "hands down" - apparently hands DO make a difference in ITG >_>), but I play dancing games for the music and the great stepcharts, which ITG sorely lacks. There are snatches of good songs, but there's very little variety to ITG's songlist, and the licenses meant to spice the game up are only mediocre. Moonlight Shadow is excellent (though on DDR as well), but I don't care much for Charlene - and even that is one of my favorite ITG songs - and Bambee's Bumblebee isn't as good as 17 sai, and overlaps with DDR anyways. I like DDR's more varied and better licensed songlist better. Perhaps a technophile would prefer ITG, but with More Than I Needed To Know, Kind Lady, La Senorita, Exotic Ethnic, and Sandstorm among DDR's numerous songlists, there's no contest for me.
In terms of stepcharts, we're talking the difference between Healing Vision's bland chart and Utopia's terrible one; the great, fluid Spin the Disc stepchart versus Charlene's decent but repetitive counterpart. Comparing DDR's Drifting Away heavy to ITG's Drifting Away hard, you have to wonder whether the Kyle Ward actually noticed you're facing the same direction throughout the entire piece - perhaps he was trying to give Phrekwenci's term "ETS syndrome" a new name (and K. Ward is one of the better step artists!). ITG's greater crime, though, is the lack of stepcharts I will return to over and over again - charts like I Was The One and Xenon singles and Be In My Paradise doubles that are just fun to do. There is no chart in ITG that I will play again and again. And that's why I'll pay the movie arcade a dollar for a round of DDR and ignore the 30 cent ITG at a nearby nickel arcade. |
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. |
Well, that may be a little harsh. In the 7-9 footer range, I find DDR's stepcharts to be generally be superior to ITG's. But MaskedFalcon, you should give ITG more of a chance. Play it some more and see what you think of it. I advise playing on Expert; I will freely admit that a good portion of the Hard charts suck. Try some 9s like Dawn, Zodiac, and Turn It On, or (if you can handle 10s and 11s) harder songs like Bend Your Mind, Anubis, and Infection.
I agree with you on Drifting Away, though. DDR's Drifting Away > ITG's, in terms of both music and steps. _________________
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GotACoolName Trick Member
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28. Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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IMO, ITG's 9 footer Hard charts are wonderful (especially Monolith). _________________
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flcl573 Trick Member
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29. Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it's funny that when you talk about songs in DDR, you name some of the worst.
Trust me, there's NO stepchart in DDR I would play "over and over again." _________________
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Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: in ur bowlz, flowerin' my Viacom |
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Razma Vivid Member
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31. Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Anybody that rags on Pump hasn't played it enough to truely understand it. I played DDR for 6 years before I encountered PIU and now its all that I play. Everything about the game makes all other dancing games seem like an afterthought to me.
The music is far superior in terms of sound quality and in terms of variety. There has yet to be a single person that has seen me play that doesn't like the game because of the music.
Graphically, the game outshines everything and anything that any music game has ever thrown out. PIU:Zero has the best interface and the best looking gameplay ever.
Stepchart veriety is what gets the big vote now. There aren't 2 Pump charts that are alike. Andamiro puts such a focus of the charts that it really makes it shine over any other game. The added bonus of a focus on Doubles play really gets you moving around and offers so much more as a game than any DDR I've played. Also, the way the arrows are arranged feels so much more natural than 4-panel.
As for my feelings on ITG, I don't like it. Asthetically, it is one of the ugliest things I've ever seen. The music (mostly) sounds alike and pretty much caters to those who like synth-techno or other variations of the same. The only thing I give ITG props for are clever use of mods during marathon courses. I had a lot of fun playing the Driven course and I had a pretty good (although, frustrating) time playing Caddywhompus.
Go find a PIU:Zero machine and give it a chance. You'll like it, I promise.
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BustAGroovey Trick Member
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32. Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:05 am Post subject: |
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I like DDR the best. I've stuck with that series for years and plus, ITG and PIU doesnt have characters. |
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Da Bar Trick Member
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AA Bob Trick Member
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34. Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:16 am Post subject: |
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PrinceLandon wrote: | ITG and PIU doesnt have characters. |
...which is a good thing. _________________
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Emptyeye wrote: | So um, is it bad that awhile ago I was watching Family Guy, and when Quagmire came on, I thought something to the effect of "Whoa, It's AA Bob!" (I don't remember if the exact thought was "It's AA Bob" or "It's AA Bob's avatar", but I don't think it matters in this case)? |
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BustAGroovey Trick Member
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35. Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:33 am Post subject: |
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AA Bob wrote: | PrinceLandon wrote: | ITG and PIU doesnt have characters. |
...which is a good thing. |
For you maybe. Its horrible for me. I play horriblely without characters. |
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BustAGroovey Trick Member
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36. Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Da Bar wrote: | PrinceLandon wrote: | ITG and PIU doesnt have characters. |
it's pretty saad if that's what you're basing your bias on. |
Well that is just my opinion. I love characters. I guess you can blame character dancers like Bust A Groove/Move or me starting with the early mixes of DDR. I honestly prefer them over random weird videos. Plus I like Super Nova's approach to Characters and Arenas for most of their songs. It saves space I'm sure than having a video for every song. Probably why they were able to fit over 300 possibly. But hey..this is just my opinion so you shouldn't just bash me just because it seems silly. |
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AA Bob Trick Member
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37. Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: |
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PrinceLandon wrote: | AA Bob wrote: | PrinceLandon wrote: | ITG and PIU doesnt have characters. |
...which is a good thing. |
For you maybe. Its horrible for me. I play horriblely without characters. |
I'm just saying that most people don't care about characters at all, and the reason they're not in ITG or PIU is that they're annoying and frivolous. Characters are purely cosmetic - they don't have any functional purpose or affect gameplay at all. The fact that you're using the absence of characters as your main argument against ITG and PIU shows an enormous amount of ignorance. I obviously can't stop you from avoiding ITG and PIU because they don't have animated dancers bouncing around in the background, but with all due respect, that's a pretty stupid reason to stick with DDR. _________________
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Emptyeye wrote: | So um, is it bad that awhile ago I was watching Family Guy, and when Quagmire came on, I thought something to the effect of "Whoa, It's AA Bob!" (I don't remember if the exact thought was "It's AA Bob" or "It's AA Bob's avatar", but I don't think it matters in this case)? |
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#Infinity Trick Member
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: San Diego, CA |
38. Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:20 am Post subject: |
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PrinceLandon wrote: | AA Bob wrote: | PrinceLandon wrote: | ITG and PIU doesnt have characters. |
...which is a good thing. |
For you maybe. Its horrible for me. I play horriblely without characters. |
I think it's horrible now because DDR SuperNova screwed us by taking away background videos and instead forcing us to use characters. Hey, at least 4th Mix wasn't the same thing over and over becausue you had lots of awesome background videos, not to mention characters are optional on the home versions. Not everyone wants to have dancing characters in DDR. It all just shows how lazy Konami is about DDR now. _________________
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39. Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: |
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FLCL wrote: | Trust me, there's NO stepchart in DDR I would play "over and over again." |
Hey, I find ITG better and all that, but saying that every chart in DDR gets old is fairly fanboyish.
Freckles doubles....that's pretty fun.
Janajane doubles....that's pretty fun.
V Oni Singles or Doubles....those are pretty fun.
There are some good charts in DDR. I will also stand that certain ITG charts seem bland....like most hard charts (Which is essentially DDR's Heavy). THere are even some bland Expert charts like Driving Force Classical, Boogie Down, or Disconnected.
Oh, and at least 10 of these threads have been made before. The only reason I personally am posting here is to quote someone, so don't get on my case and call me a hypocrite. _________________
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