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40. PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anything 9 foot difficulty or above.


For one, that isn't a specific pattern, so it is ambiguous what you dislike about them. I assume the stream or the footspeed.

Two, that is a pretty dumb generalization. There are many 9's that act a lot like 8's like for example Irresistiblement or Kakumei. Do you hate those stepcharts? My Summer Love is another 9 that shouldn't be a 9.

Also, as much as i understand that this is your opinion and that you yourself do not like the higher end stepcharts, the high end stepcharts are often the ones that make you feel like you are dancing because they make you finally go the footspeed of real dancers.


People like you shouldn't go into public. My Summer Love is a 9 because of the 2 16th streams in it. Most people say it isn't hard because they put it on 3X speed. Try it on 1X. They were rated for the ORIGINAL speed. I think Irresistiblement is a 9 because of those stupid gallops. And EotC should be an 8.

But I HATE gallops. I do really good sometimes, but miss one and I fail. Like on R&P, or Tsugaru.
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41. PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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People like you shouldn't go into public. My Summer Love is a 9 because of the 2 16th streams in it. Most people say it isn't hard because they put it on 3X speed. Try it on 1X. They were rated for the ORIGINAL speed. I think Irresistiblement is a 9 because of those stupid gallops. And EotC should be an 8.


Ok, first understand that there is no point insulting me for that post. Trust me, these forums of full of REAL flaming, so if you can't deal with my other post, you need to grow a thicker skin for DDRFreak.

Also, as my OPINION, I find My Summer Love no harder than Afronove Oni....an 8 if you remember....EVEN on x1. It is not all that hard to read.

If Irresistiblement is a 9 because of gallops, then why aren't a plethra of other 8's bumped to 9 such as In the Navy or SPeed Over Beethoven. ESPECIALLY Speed Over Beethoven because the stepchart idea is decently similar to Irresistiblement which in fact was rated a 9.

And finally, why should they put EotC as an 8 if they are keeping Saints Go Marching as a 9 which is again, a very similar stepchart idea.

And it keeps on getting more inconsistant. EotC and Saints are 9's, yet Daikenkai Oni is an 8??



In summary, the rating system isn't completely flawless, so my point of comparing certain 9's to 8's isn't unreasonable.
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42. PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyrgannus wrote:
jammys wrote:
People like you shouldn't go into public. My Summer Love is a 9 because of the 2 16th streams in it. Most people say it isn't hard because they put it on 3X speed. Try it on 1X. They were rated for the ORIGINAL speed. I think Irresistiblement is a 9 because of those stupid gallops. And EotC should be an 8.


Ok, first understand that there is no point insulting me for that post. Trust me, these forums of full of REAL flaming, so if you can't deal with my other post, you need to grow a thicker skin for DDRFreak.

Also, as my OPINION, I find My Summer Love no harder than Afronove Oni....an 8 if you remember....EVEN on x1. It is not all that hard to read.

If Irresistiblement is a 9 because of gallops, then why aren't a plethra of other 8's bumped to 9 such as In the Navy or SPeed Over Beethoven. ESPECIALLY Speed Over Beethoven because the stepchart idea is decently similar to Irresistiblement which in fact was rated a 9.

And finally, why should they put EotC as an 8 if they are keeping Saints Go Marching as a 9 which is again, a very similar stepchart idea.

And it keeps on getting more inconsistant. EotC and Saints are 9's, yet Daikenkai Oni is an 8??



In summary, the rating system isn't completely flawless, so my point of comparing certain 9's to 8's isn't unreasonable.


Also note they were rated for the first time you play them. Those difficulty ratings are rendered useless after you play them. Hahaha.
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43. PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I do not like are any types of crossovers frust.gif or superfast gallops... This thread would make a nice sticky (requests sticky) E7.gif
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44. PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Step jumps are evil, but jackhammers at fast speeds (i.e. CSFIL ~SM~) always kill me. Trills are also sometimes evil to me, but it depends on the speed they're at.

On the other hand, I'm in love with gallops. And crossovers. <3 biggrin.gif
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45. PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's a trill?
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46. PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True trills don't really exist in DDR because, well, nothing in DDR is fast enough.

A trill is essentially extremely fast footwork on only 2 arrows like U,L,U,L etc.

THe thing is, I don't even call it a trill until is half-again as fast as Max300's streams. The closest thing to a trill in DDR is Maximizer Heavy, but a better example would be in songs like Euphoria, HotN, or Sweet World (Oh noez! ITG in the DDR forum)
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47. PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate sreams that act like they want you to turn, but are at super high speeds, like Healing Vision (angewhatever mix) or especialy Siants Go Marching In right after the cross overs.
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48. PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuff like
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is the worst, liek dakenkai oni
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49. PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot stand the long jackhammers (cant stop fallin in love)
the gay step jump step poopy in lom. its just its so fast.
anddd also spinsssss
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50. PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate a few dance patterns:

1: left,down, right, down at high speeds

2: left, up, right, up at high speeds.

3: Jackhammers. I absolutely hate jackhammers

4: And spins
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51. PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definately the gallops in the song tsugaru heavy! frust.gif
they're sooo annoying!!! disgust.gif
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52. PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i cant stand the ghey mines in itg and gallops(cause i can never do em right!!! frust.gif
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53. PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

step-step-jump patterns annoy me. case in point, DXY! heavy and stoic heavy. DXY! is somewhat do able because of the slower bpm. but stoic is just plain crappy with the patterns they throw at you. what song would want you to do a stream repeatedly and jump every 2-3 steps? oh, and sudden stops too.
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54. PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jammys wrote:
Also note they were rated for the first time you play them. Those difficulty ratings are rendered useless after you play them. Hahaha.


yes because those gallops in Irresistiblement are so much harder to figure out than.... well.... ANYTHING in Vanity Angel

or L'amour
or The Least 100 Seconds
or how bout those crossunder 16ths in Long Train Runnin (7 footer lol)
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55. PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think my best point was Speed Over Beethoven when compared to Irresistiblement or Daikenkai Oni compared to Saints Go Marching or EotC

But remember, jammys is holier than us and is never wrong. After all, we questioned the rating system. People like us shouldn't "go in public" as he said.

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56. PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can do step, step, jumps, just not step, jump. Gallops are pretty easy for me. Once my cousin did a commentary on me doing gallops. XD
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Incredibly easy. Can you not see your right foot always stays on the right arrow?

Those are candle steps, and I'm guessing that he dislikes them because they're hard to execute at high speeds (compared to steps that don't involve moving your foot across the center panel), not because he doesn't know how to do them.


AA Bob's right on that. Try turning it sideways and you got an expert Vertex pattern from ITG.
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