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20. PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive noticed at my arcade doubles has become more popular, once i started playing i got pretty good at it, the only 10s i have left are MaxX and Tlom but i play for free at my arcade soo i dont have to worry about price plus out ddr and itg2 machine is set to 5 songs now E4.gif
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21. PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I am thinking that CSFIL:SM is hard on doubles heavy because I only played it once. Oh yeah, I have been playing doubles for about two weeks now.

And a tiring song is The Least 100 Sec. That is in no way an 8 footer.
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22. PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not really buying the "it's too hard to learn" excuse. I don't see anybody giving up on Max 300 their first time playing it because "it's too hard to learn".

I'm surprised at how many arcades don't have joint premium. But I'd pay twice as much for doubles anyway. It's double the money, but double the fun. E15.gif
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23. PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take 2 games of singles over one game of doubles any day. It costs twice as much at my arcade to play doubles. Enough said.
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24. PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tattoo man wrote:
Maybe I am thinking that CSFIL:SM is hard on doubles heavy because I only played it once. Oh yeah, I have been playing doubles for about two weeks now.

And a tiring song is The Least 100 Sec. That is in no way an 8 footer.


here are the highest full combos (including jumps) for double stepcharts in ddr extreme:

paranoia survivor max oni - 655
the legend of max - 540
paranoia survivor max - 535
maxx unlimited - 525
healing vision angelic mix - 497
max300 - 494
paranoia survivor - 477
afronova primeval - 473
dead end - 472
the least 100 seconds - 465
daikenkai oni - 465
bre\-/kdown - 464

as you can see, tl100s surpasses the full combo of all but four catas (two of which - hvam and daikenkai - are as hard as an easy-medium 10) and most of the 10 footers (sakura, bag and genom screams have fewer steps than tl100s). while step count isn't everything, it is a decent indicator of the difficulty of a song, and it's obvious that tl100s is waaaay out of place as an 8 (and, of course, you can easily argue outside the step count - eighth spurts involving awkward pad crossovers and candlesticks, and almost constant quarter stream).

edit: dead end


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25. PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makilaz wrote:
Then the machine has a premium activated. Most of the arcades I've been at force you to pay double for versus or double mode.

Same here. When we used to have a huge group of DDR players, several of us really got hooked on doubles, but the price kept us from doing it >.<
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26. PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did however pass tl100sec first time. Second time I failed.

And daikenkai, don't even me started on that. And Afronova I have yet to pass on heavy yet. Only played it once, so that is a good enough excuse.
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27. PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love doubles play so I’m fine paying $2.00 when I have to. I got bored with Singles play and after a bit of struggling I learned doubles play. Now I’m pretty much hooked because there’s so more variety in the steps. At home I used to tape two foam pads together, which worked pretty well, but now I’ve finally got two metal pads. biggrin.gif
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28. PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

umjammer wrote:
I love doubles play so I’m fine paying $2.00 when I have to. I got bored with Singles play and after a bit of struggling I learned doubles play. Now I’m pretty much hooked because there’s so more variety in the steps. At home I used to tape two foam pads together, which worked pretty well, but now I’ve finally got two metal pads. biggrin.gif


Lucky. I can do easy heavy songs now, but when I try the harder ones, my pads slide way apart. And my pads don't seem to like tape. disgust.gif
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29. PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we were just talking about a misrated 8 on doubles with a high stepcount, and i completely ignored dead end, which has a gigantic stepcount and is plain relentless.

why did dead end singles get moved to a 9 and not the doubles stepchart?
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30. PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably cause of the jacks. Yea, the crossovers are pretty constant, but in the context of doubles I wouldn't say it's too horrible. It's either a hard 8 or an easy 9, I wouldn't really demand it should be either.

btw CSFILSM is like the easiest doubles cata ever. No gallops and really easy crossovers (they're tricky at first but simple and fun once you know them). I have 6 greats on it, the lowest great count I have on any doubles song laugh.gif

also maskedfalcon, I definitely disagree with you about PSMO being the hardest stepchart. It's WAY easier on doubles than it is on singles. And not just in the context of doubles, either. Compared directly to singles, the end run is way more forgiving and way less tiring on doubles. I can no bar pass psmo doubles, but I don't even try to no bar singles, it just rapes me. The only hard part of psmo doubles for me is the very first set of notes, I can never quite nail those.
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31. PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I can see, doubles isn't very popular at the arcade I typically play. There are a few people who play double somewhat regularly, but for a large part it's singles. I don't blame them, as I'd much rather play two games on a single pad than one game on two pads. I do agree that it's more fun for sure, but I just don't see it as worthwhile. At least, this is the case for the DDR mix. For the In The Groove 2 arcade machine, you can play doubles for the same price as a single. A shame I have difficulties keeping up with ITG2's harder songs.
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