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60. PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I just played Pandemonium again, and there aren't many, so never mind, but the candles and jumps really add to the fatigue
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61. PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely Delirium. The song has only one draining part and the rest of it is not too bad. Just jump on the spin holds and double-jump the candle steps. Hardcore of the North is not too difficult once you can master the streamy sections that flow with the piano in the music; there are no crossovers, jackhammers, candles, hands, or anything like that. Just stamina and endurance is all you need. But for the hard ones, don't do Euphoria unless you can pass at least Bloodrush or Determinator; it's nearly impossible to do on foot.
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62. PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Definitely Delirium. The song has only one draining part and the rest of it is not too bad. Just jump on the spin holds and double-jump the candle steps. Hardcore of the North is not too difficult once you can master the streamy sections that flow with the piano in the music; there are no crossovers, jackhammers, candles, hands, or anything like that. Just stamina and endurance is all you need. But for the hard ones, don't do Euphoria unless you can pass at least Bloodrush or Determinator; it's nearly impossible to do on foot.


You have way too much stamina for your own good and no technique, it seems.
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63. PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hands R' Us wrote:
Definitely Delirium. The song has only one draining part and the rest of it is not too bad. Just jump on the spin holds and double-jump the candle steps. Hardcore of the North is not too difficult once you can master the streamy sections that flow with the piano in the music; there are no crossovers, jackhammers, candles, hands, or anything like that. Just stamina and endurance is all you need. But for the hard ones, don't do Euphoria unless you can pass at least Bloodrush or Determinator; it's nearly impossible to do on foot.


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Vertex is basically the easiest 12. If stamina is not your thing, try Delirium. ! or Go 60 Go aren't that bad, either. My friend's first 12 was Tell, so I guess you can pass that fairly easily if you BS the step-jumps. Energizer is LoM on crack, but if you can handle the speed it's no big deal. The four hardest 12s are Bloodrush, Determinator, Hardcore of the North, and Euphoria. Determinator will most likely be near the end of the line for most people, because the speed in large doses is ruthless. Euphoria is surprisingly not that hard to BS if you have the stamina. Hardcore of the North is, as noted, mostly speed without much technique involved, so if you have the speed AND the stamina needed, you can fake it. Bloodrush is a fast, twisty mess. If you like crossovers and runs and step-jumps and all kinds of crazy stuff, have fun. The rest of you save it for later.
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64. PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find Tell, Energizer, and Delirium much more difficult to pass than Euphoria.
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65. PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is going to sound weird, but Delirium is MORE tiring for me than Vertex is. I do not bode well with constant streams.

Here are some lists in the ranking of 12s. Note: this is MY OPINION

Draining (least to most)

1.!
2.Go 60 Go
3.Euphoria
4.Tell
5.Vertex
6.Delirium
7.Determinator
8.Energizer
9.HotN
10.Bloodrush

Pass difficulty (least to most)

1.Vertex
2.!
3.Go 60 Go
4.Delirium
5.Euphoria
6.Energizer
7.Tell
8.HotN
9.Bloodrush
10.Determinator

Scoring difficulty (least to most)

1.Delirium
2.!
3.Vertex
4.Go 60 Go
5.Energizer
6.Bloodrush
7.Hardcore of the North
8.Tell
9.Determinator
10.Euphoria


I guess the easiest is !
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66. PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vertex is the easiest definitely, but i heard that they upgraded The Beginning to a 12, so maybe that, too. If it's not a 12, just Vertex, cuz i havent even heard Go 60 Go.
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67. PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seabassmonster wrote:
Vertex is the easiest definitely, but i heard that they upgraded The Beginning to a 12, so maybe that, too. If it's not a 12, just Vertex, cuz i havent even heard Go 60 Go.


where do you people "hear" these rumors? because the Beginning is NOT gonna be a 12. period.
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68. PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seabassmonster wrote:
Vertex is the easiest definitely, but i heard that they upgraded The Beginning to a 12, so maybe that, too. If it's not a 12, just Vertex, cuz i havent even heard Go 60 Go.


where do you people "hear" these rumors? because the Beginning is NOT gonna be a 12. period.


us ppl? see, this is exactly the reason i said:

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If it's not a 12
, showing that i wasn't sure. don't just flip out like that it's not cool
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69. PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seabassmonster wrote:
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If it's not a 12
, showing that i wasn't sure. don't just flip out like that it's not cool

He got confused because the second sentence of your post makes no sense.
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70. PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm the only one here who thinks that tell is a freakin hard 12. To me, HotN is alot easier. I almost have a 90% on HotN, but my Tell score is only in the 70s... well that's probably cause I almost never play tell. erm.gif
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71. PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell is just hard to score on.
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72. PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seabassmonster wrote:
Asymptote wrote:
Seabassmonster wrote:
Vertex is the easiest definitely, but i heard that they upgraded The Beginning to a 12, so maybe that, too. If it's not a 12, just Vertex, cuz i havent even heard Go 60 Go.


where do you people "hear" these rumors? because the Beginning is NOT gonna be a 12. period.


us ppl? see, this is exactly the reason i said:

Seabassmonster wrote:
If it's not a 12
, showing that i wasn't sure. don't just flip out like that it's not cool


yeah, I know you weren't sure. thing is, we're always "hearing rumors" for example, Disc. Hyper will be upgraded to an 11, Monolith is gonna be a 12 (just check the new thread about HS), and now you say you hear that The Beginning is upgraded to 12.... and I want to know exactly where people get these rumors from, or if people are just pulling them out of their asses.
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73. PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think some are made up because people find song X, whatever it may be, too hard for them.

If 14s ever get introduced into ITG (Note I said "if") then Vertex^2 doubles would probably (Note I said "probably") be a candidate of being upgraded to a 14. Anyone that has seen the chart (I purposely wasted money just to see it) probably would agree.
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74. PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no possible way that The Beginning could ever be a 12. It was the first 11 I ever beat. Rumors are just rumors and gossip; they are not always true, but can be. I don't know about VerTex² doubles being as hard as a 14 since I've never seen the stepchart, but surely enough, it's probably harder than Energizer doubles.
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75. PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can pass vertex, delerium, euphoria, go60go, and !, but still can't do tell. My legs just lock up on the step jumps.

And I wouldn't be entirelt suprised if the beginning was bumped to a 12. I find it harder that most of the songle I listed. Probably won't happen though, unless they bump hardcore symphony up as well.
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HA HA HA!!! LMFAO!! That is so funny!! Very creative! Anyway, back to the topic, if any song will be bumped up to a 12, it would be Hardcore Symphony.
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77. PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delirium, Vertex, Go 60 Go.
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78. PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like how nobody bothered to mention how the beginning was a 10 in ITG1.
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Fsck.L-Tape wrote:
I like how nobody bothered to mention how the beginning was a 10 in ITG1.


Probably because it wasn't.
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