Beatmania convert budget

lildrchris25 · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX

any point for that triple post?
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0rion · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject:

Simple. In lieu of making any real point, he's purposely trying to lock this thread.

I don't know why I'm even doing this, as you single-handedly won my argument FOR me, but...

First of all, you STILL haven't submitted any proof that I actually DO pirate video games myself. All you have is the possible IMPLICATION that I MIGHT pirate video games because I suggested the possibility. It's like trying someone in criminal court for theft, then submitting no evidence in order to prove his guilt other than "Well, he IMPLIED that he was going to rob that convenience store." That just doesn't hold up.

Secondly, saying that one crime is LESS bad than another doesn't mean that that crime is okay. It's like saying "Hey, I DID assault the man, but at least I didn't KILL him." It's still illegal.

And best of all, YOU - not me, but YOU - said that YOU pirate games until you can find legitimate copies. So, if I'm understanding you properly: pirating games is alright; just don't MENTION piracy in any given conversation.

It's not even possible for you to talk your way out of the corner you've gotten yourself into, so for the sake of everyone around you, please don't bother trying. Just stick that tail of yours between your legs where it belongs, and just drop it.
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Edible Bondage Tape · Trick Member Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Location: Kerri

0rion · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject:

That's true enough. On the other hand, to be fair, public performance of the songs (in essence, playing any songs not licensed for US release) is still illegal. So therefore, it's still technically illegal to play many of the songs on Japanese DDR machines.

This isn't to say that anyone has been, is currently, or will ever be arrested for such an offense (think what a trial THAT would make!), but since we're speaking on purely technical terms, it still bears mentioning.
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Larrikin · Contributor Joined: 17 Feb 2002 Location: Illadelphia

0rion · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject:

For the love of GOD, man, can you not go five minutes without calling someone that disagrees with you names? I know that you don't have an argument to make or a leg to stand on, but you can't be THAT desperate.

First of all, you've been making the implication that I pirate video games because I was DISCUSSING the piracy of video games. Therefore, the burden of proof is in YOUR hands to say whether or not I actually DO pirate video games. I don't have to say one way or another. That's how it works.

Secondly, he did not "prove me wrong" on the issue. It's STILL illegal to own and play a Japanese copy of Beatmania because the songs are not licensed or copyrighted in the US. He was speaking specifically about the resale of imported games, which is indeed not specifically a crime. However, THE DIRECT SALE AND DISTRIBUTION OF IMPORTED GAMES IS A CRIME, AS IS THE PUBLIC PERFORMANCE OF SAID VIDEO GAMES.

Which was the whole point of my using the playing of any Japanese DDR cabinets as an analogy of video game-related crimes that will very likely never be tried in any court.

And I understand your point about not claiming to be a saint. However, your entire argument is based on how terrible piracy is. Therefore you can't make one single claim about the evils of piracy without bearing at least a considerable portion of the guilt. Your reactionary claims of "You're an *ss" will not change that.

Now, I'm not going to kid you about this like most people will and say that this is my final word on the subject. Until you get a grip on yourself or this topic gets locked, I will continue to systematically destroy every one of your ill-conceived points. I can only hope you appreciate my honesty regarding this matter.
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Skit · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject:

I like IIDX 7th style.
What about you guys- Larrikin and Sir 0rion?
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0rion · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject:

Alright, I'm happy to change the subject to something more pleasant.

I only have a couple of small problems with 7th Style. I wasn't a fan of some of the songs they had on it, for one, and that was the style that they once and for all stopped using the Low Speed modifier, which I find really fun to use.

However, in terms of IIDX songs featured on DDR, Happy Wedding made for a surprisingly fun Another chart, Max 300 is a pretty cool high BPM song, and A, of course... well, A has always been friggin' insane on IIDX.
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dothedre · Basic Member Joined: 19 Jul 2005

All I have to say is Sir Orion rules. I am glad to see people still appreciate pirating in the bemani community.

Let you know this though, I plan on buying these IIDX games but I don't think anyone should be flamed for supporting piracy.

We all eventually pay for them in one way. Anyways piracy rules! Bemani games too.

Flazh · Trick Member Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Location: Leeds, England

Just to tackle this quickly...

Sinistar · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject:

gay dentist · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:27 am Post subject:

Buy the game off of www.yesasia.com .
Bought 10th Style on there for $62.00, free shipping.

It's the same price for Red.

0rion · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject:

Let's see... *Reads Flazh's post*

Here's some childish name-calling... some flamebaiting here... more name-calling... nope. No actual points made. Did you really revive this topic just to make yourself sound like even more of an idiot?
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UnderOATH · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Location: Odessa, TX

I see no problem with pirating 3rd-7th because of the fact that their discontinued and konami isnt recieving any money it doesnt matter anyway. Although I will say that sometimes a pirated game can crash on you and that really sux. Plus you wont get the cool box art.

8-red though is still in production and you shouldnt have any problem finding them. play-asia sometimes has them on sale for around $30. I got 9th for that price like 3 weeks ago. you just have to look around.
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ColorOfSakura · Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:13 am Post subject:

act deft · Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject:

(I'm a noob at this, so... please, help...

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Returning to the topic of Fliptops, is this] the only thing I need, besides the boot discs, to play imported games?
or do I need more stuff?

and just to make it more on-topic, for those who have played RED CS, how noob-friendly is it?

TiA.
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0rion · Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject:

Zajitarrius, that is the first coherent, serious, and above all reasonable argument that has been put forth against the piracy of IIDX in this entire topic. I commend you for it. One thing, though... why did you quote my saying that I was willing to talk about something more pleasant?

Anyway, Larriken and Flazh could really learn a thing or two from you about taking a standpoint and then following it through with a collective series of factual statements. Kudos on putting some actual thought into your post.
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Backslider · Trick Member Joined: 14 Jul 2005