which songs do you need the bar?

Jedo · Trick Member Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Location: NYC

Well right now the hardest things I can pass are 8 of the 11s, and I do them all no bar.
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E-300 · Trick Member Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Location: Nashville Tn.

I use it for doubles on everything pass 8 footer's,
Some of those 9's are wrong! Like Boogie Down.

I have yet to see a 12 or 13 footer doub pass without using the bar once.
Especially V2 passed on doubles w/o bar seeing how this song really is a 14 footer on doub..
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject:

I use the bar for what I deem "ridiculous speed"

Destiny
The mini-runs in Clockwerk
Parts of Infection
Delirium
SUMMER ZOMG (still can't pass it)
Determinator (again, no pass)
Bloodrush
Hardcore of the North
July
Pandemonium Hard

I'll just stop and say any 11-13 with a decent BPM besides like Utopia and Xuxa. They just....don't need a bar.
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Brick Tamland(LoveRevenG) · Trick Member Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Location: NC

I'd say for me anything 10 and above I need the bar. I'm not yet on the level of hard 12's and 13's yet but the bar definitely helps me. I mean I tried Vertex one time no bar and I died. Literally, I died.
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MinN_Limited · Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject:

I'm sure anything can be passed no bar by certain experienced players, but you'll probably need it for getting good FA on the really hard stuff. I personally dont play for doing that so I dont use a bar.

Hands R' Us · Trick Member Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Location: Mars

I could pass a few 10s without the bar: Queen of Light (duh), Walking on Fire, D-Code, VerTex (hard); some others with partial bar. I could perhaps do sections of some 11s without the bar. Bar raping is required for 12s and 13s as far as I'm concerned.
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MaxX300 to the MATTimum · Trick Member Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Location: earth

This an off-titled forum. The title SHOULd be, what songs do you LIKE to use the bar on. Because there is no song that you CAN'T without the bar. Pickles has done im pretty sure every song 1x no bar, like pandemonium, you can find the vids on www.teamd5r.com i think thats the site, I don't have it memorized, and I'm not looking for it right now.
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#Infinity · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: San Diego, CA

I'd probably want a bar for anything fast with lots of 16ths like July. I've actually passed Euphoria Expert without the bar (at home, of course), but I'm finding myself having a bit too much trouble controlling my body enough to completely nail songs such as Delirium. Songs in the same vein as ! are definitely easy enough for me to do without the bar.
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Boochypa · Trick Member Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: VA Tech

Because Euphoria is easy as hell to pass and Delirium isn't.
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MaxX300 to the MATTimum · Trick Member Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Location: earth

yeah, all of Euphoria is BS-able. As said in other threads, I've never done any 11-13's on ITG. But I have done LoM and ALMOST PSMO the last time i tried which was like...2 weeks ago. But anyway, I just tried Euphoria at home for fun, and I seriously got to the slow part, but then I failed, because I have done it on the controller and if you know how it goes, you can pretty much do it. People only say its a hard 12 because of the drills. Its only hard to score on.
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MaxX300 to the MATTimum · Trick Member Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Location: earth

I AM ODD. Because I am REALLY good at 10s. Most w/o bar. But my feet just don't move fast enough quite yet for Utopia and Charlene/Xuxa. I almost did all 3 of them, but I can't do the runs mostly. Like left-right-left-right. Whatever you call it when you trill in between 2 of the same notes really fast. The ones in Euphoria are so fast, that you can BS them easy.
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Tobias Preener · Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject:

11+ not including Charlene
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:22 am Post subject:

I can FC most of the 10's no bar, but I will sometimes use it if I want to get on the top 10 list at the arcades.

11's, I do no bar only if I'm proving that I can do it no bar (as in a challenge or a "I bet you can't" kind of thing).

12's, I can only no bar SOME of these and even then only at home where I have more stamina. I bar rape to pass these in the arcade, I'll admit it.

13's, well, I can almost pass Summer and I can go pretty far in the other 2. I bar rape to get that far.

Like other people said, you don't need the bar to pass. Songs are physically possible to do barless. However, ho many 98's are there of barless pandemonium's? Oh wait....the answer is none.
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MinN_Limited · Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: