DanceTrax - A New Dance Simulation Game

arnoct · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:56 am Post subject:

Heh, I'm underwhelmed. It sounds like it'll have good songs but from what I can see from the songlist it looks like something someone would release as a stepmania mix. Also, you guys do realize you're going to get sued, right?
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I probley will like it, its just very unoriginal thats all

Synaesthesia · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:08 am Post subject:

Hard to have a terrible amount of originality in arrow-smash, though. Music sounds great. I'm also interested in how the legality works, though I'm not sure anyone can disclose that over the Internet (Konami has eyes everywhere >_> <_<). Big question(s) from me: how are the stepcharts going to be? How is the timing going to be? I assume that last one will be the same as StepMania timing? All I know is ITG's timing window is exactly how I like it. As for charts, are we going to be seeing stuff like ITG's Expert mode of 11, 12, ... , n difficulty songs? Or maybe something like PIU's Freestyle charts? (I know when I heard the music, I immediately thought more about freestyling than FAing, but that's just me).
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CNLohr · Trick Member Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Alright, a lot has been asked and very little has been answered.

1: The artists listed on the site are just the in-house artists, and directly associated artists. We are currently in talks with warner to get about three mainstream songs (not techno/club). At any rate, we will be producing bumper packs and optional song packs, so if an arcade owner really feels one genre is lacking, they can fix the problem.

Someone mentioned not having eurobeat... We have SAIFAM and Slash. What more could you want?

2: The cabinet is very different from anything you guys have seen before. Lifebars on the sides of the machines, 6-speaker surround sound, far more durable pads than what's on other dance simulation games. Our software has a lot of new features also.

3: In regards to a law suit, Paper2Production's lawyers have been keeping up-to-date with the Konami lawsuit that Roxor is under and they are confident that even if Konami does sue us in a similar way, it will not be any serious worry (I don't know how many of you guys read Roxor's legal responce, they're in a lot less trouble than you guys think.) Also, Paper2Production's lawyers have given us guidance on the design to aide in the prevention of such a law suit. This is not the topic of discussion, and there is a limited amount I can say on the subject, so any further inquiry to this will be ignored.

Synaesthesia · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:00 am Post subject:

The optical pad design must be radically different from what I've seen of those in the past. I seem to recall that they used not only more expensive material, but more fragile as well. I'm still curious about step charts, as they're the big reason I hold ITG in higher regard than DDR currently. DDR may have more songs that I like, but very few charts strike me as being fun.
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MazriM TaiM · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:12 am Post subject:

Hooray close-minded DDR Freak users!

I dunno, I think the music sounds excellent and something I'd be more likely to you know...DANCE to. >_> Some of my favorite songs from ITG are things like Changes or Solina, because they seem more DANCEable than most of the bubbly happy stuff in DDR. I'm looking forward to this game as much as did ITG when it was first coming out. =)
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How long is an average cut of the music?

Vile · Trick Member Joined: 03 Dec 2002 Location: Knoxville

I just have one question...what is the song playing on the main viewing page of your site, it's hawt.

Oh yeah, and it looks good as long as they have fun stepcharts like ITG2 and not boring ones like DDR >.<

Goggles · Trick Member Joined: 02 Mar 2002 Location: Burbank, CA

How many notes do some of your charts have? I'm really picky with note charts...it basically makes or breaks the game for me...which is why I don't play ITG. I would also like to know the overall foot ranking system you are using, seeing as this thing is powered by Stepmania. Also, what is the overall cost of a machine going to be? It sounds expensive with all the LED stuff...but I could be wrong.

Right now, I have nothing more to say on this. I can't make a judgement based on speculation. "We realize that step charts are held in high regard and I assure you the dynamic amount of charts will not disappoint you." This is a great sales pitch...but I'm not about to jump for joy because Phrek likes the step charts they wrote. Perhaps some sample step charts on the site? Or even a sample SM file. That would be a great idea. Again, I did find most of the music to my liking, so I don't wanna make this seem like I'm bashing your game. I just wanna know more than "our steps aren't dissapointing," to come to a logical conclusion about whether or not I wanna play this. Remember too that RoXor announced to the community that all is well and then Konami sued them. So, I'm not about to pass a judgement on the Paper2Production stuff just yet.

Well, good luck getting this off the ground...though if you have someone like Arch Owl working on steps...well he's already killed his reputation with me...plus all he ever writes are impossible for feet keyboard steps...so that's just another black mark with me. I'm not interested in another dance game that requires me to hold the bar.

By the way, I'm happy to see Jihnsius in there. Good to see that he's getting his foot in the door in the musical community.
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Dawgbowl · Trick Member Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Location: Frederick,MD

I dunno WHAT to expect from this...

Of course, if it comes within an hour of me, I will travel to play it.

I dont think i'll be able to hate/love it until I play it.

(At first (like everyone else) i was like "ITG SUCKSOMGLOLITSRIPOOFF" but now... I'm nearing some expert 100%s...)
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Wakka Lakka · Trick Member Joined: 12 Mar 2005

If Arch0wl is involved I would not worry about the quality of the stepcharts. My main concern is that the price of the cabinets seems to be going in the wrong direction. A DDR EX2 cab could be had for under 7K, ITG2 runs closer to 10K. How much is this thing going to cost with its optical sensors and external led lifebar indicators? If this turns out to be an 'awsome but expensive' rig, my arcades will never get one

I do applaud the innovation in sensor technology however because it reduces maintenence (which no one in my area does

) and it makes the legal attack from K more complicated(expensive) as it does not use the patented microswitches. Anyway I hope the team can bring this to market cheaper than DDR so my arcade gets one because it looks killer. Nice work

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ixismiffyixi · Basic Member Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Location: So-CAL

for some who thinks the music sucks, look at the site what they wrote, a clubbing experience, i thought ddr had a good selections of songs on all their mixes but itg1&2 just had songs that were too happy and fruity w/the vocals...but a cast of over 100 songs is well gonna b worth the wait...i jsut hope the background video will be something to blow me away b/c itg videos sux...