What "makes" a 10 footer a 10 footer?

quax94 · Trick Member Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Location: Wisconsin

I think speed, fast like MaxX Unlimeted, super slow like bag, + diffaculty
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quax94 · Trick Member Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Location: Wisconsin

DDR Extreme 2 has bag?!
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject:

1) Edit, don't repost.
2) No.
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badger · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:46 pm Post subject:

Synaesthesia · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject:

Dr. AAA · Trick Member Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere

Everyone seems to forgot that PAing can be a part of the difficulty like Sakura is one example. This is why Sakura was a ten footer because of PAing. Sakura is also made by Naoki. Cartoon Heroes is easier to PA than Sakura, but it is harder to pass. Cartoon Heroes will still be a hard nine footer. Cartoon Heroes is not created by Naoki.
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badger · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:13 am Post subject:

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Demon Bryant · Trick Member Joined: 27 Mar 2005

Before you read this, realize I've never played any of the Xbox 10's besides Max-Me-Mix.

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ddr_master0602 · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:56 am Post subject:

Synaesthesia · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:25 pm Post subject:

Tell us that again once you SDG it in the arcade.
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MadTaco · Trick Member Joined: 26 Apr 2005

Yep, those slowdowns in Sakura really help to constitute its rating...I've failed numerous times on the last 2-5 steps due to how gradual the slowdown is. Pretty cool.
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject:

I've noticed a pattern in this thread.

1) Controversy on Sakura's rating
2) Controversy on Cartoon Heroes rating

I think here is the biggest reason why CH isn't a 10, who the crap is Barbie Young? At first you're thinking that shouldn't matter but Bag, Sakura, PS, PSM, Max300, MaxXUnlim, & LoM were al made by Naoki.

That is a good portion of the 10-footers, so pretty much Naoki makes the 10's, not Barbie Young

I know there are exceptions such as Outer Limits and Max Period, but hey were also done by wel known DDR peeps. I agree that Cartoon Heroes is quite difficult, but personally I don't think it should be a 10 myself. It doesn't require the energy of the 10-footers.

If there is any arguement, it should be on Healing Vision Angelic Mix. Not only was it written by a person who has now written a 10-footer (Max.) but it is draining as all get out, especially double.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:36 am Post subject:

Bzzt. I can do HVAM Shuffle and not even break a sweat, and I can't pass all the 10s yet. It's not that draining, and there's hardly anything difficult to PA about it.

Have you noticed how all these difficulty debates always end up being about 10s, and which should be higher/lower/more lefter/whatever? I think this problem arises when people get mad at what they can't pass effectively.** Seriously, no one debates about whether or not that 6 deserves to be a 7; most people can probably PA that song the same whether it's a 6 or 7, and no one really cares. Another possibility is that they want more songs to be 10s (CH this, HVAM that, EE whatever) just to pad their 10-count, and give a false sense of accomplishment (ooh, I can pass 6 10s instead of 2!).** There's not even a point to debating any song's difficulty, because the only place you might see it change is in a home version. And, being the home ver, chances are you could pass whatever song happened to get its rating changed. Debating ITG song difficulties makes sense, since it's producing arcade mixes and listening to the consensus of its fans. Debating DDR song difficulties is tantamount to re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

**This seems to be the notion of the general populace. Obviously, it will not always hold true, but any points brought up outside those 2 possiblities are moot anyway, since the DDR rating is going to be forever stagnant.
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