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40. PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only reason this whouldin't be feesable is purly konami's fault. Now 7, you might be asking yourselfs, why in the world whould you make such a stupid statment lile that? Simple, Advertising and support. AKA, Reagonal areas. Urmm, lets use Magic, the gathering as an example. This game, yes, CARD GAME, is played around the world, in many different languages, and around august, september, ESPN2 shows the world finals. Or they used to, do they still? Anyway, moveing on. Piu exceed2, if not mistaken (could be, don't follow that game) Holds world torneys sponsered by amdarmino. Konami, dosen't care. Now if konami released a world version of say extreme, held sponsered tornys, and offered cash prizes, even small, then others whould take suit, and in theroy, you might, MIGHT be able to make a liveing out of ddr. However, i think we know by now that konami simply will not do that. As of now, DDR is an exparament to most arcades, a $5000 gamble. Whould i like to see it happen, yes of course, i'd jump on that bandwaggon in a heartbeat. (i have no life, sue me!)(no don't sue me, i have no money) However, in all likelyhood, this won't happen. If you prove me and everyone else here wrong, then more power to you. Its possable, not likely at all, but possable. In another note, i don't really thing 2 or more people bounceing a bright yellow ball over a net is that entertaining, but espn shows that!
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41. PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and the original poster has yet to respond. maybe they went all emo or something.
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42. PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or maybe you should leave your point made and let the thread die.
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43. PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also don't think you could earn a living off DDR.

However, if you tried to get a job at Bemani, you could possibly be intrinsicly involved in the development of the game. You could try to be on the team that writes code, or designs step charts, or designs the graphics for the games. Of course you wouldn't be getting payed for playing DDR, but you'd have to play it to test out step charts and so on. You would probably have to go back to school, which considering the chances of you gettting such a job are little to none, is a huge risk. But if you went into graphic design or game physics and engineering, you may be able to at least get a job working with video games, and if your extremely lucky, perhaps working with Bemani.
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44. PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trupnoi wrote:
The only way you will get money by playing ddr is if you enter tournaments and unless you are sooooooooo phrekin' 1337 and can AAA PSMO Shuffle, Dark, Shealth, on top of a bursting volcano, fighting off a million of Jet Li clones, while balancing an elephant with a toothpick on your nose all the time then don't even try to make ddr a profession. sorry to break it to you, but it's a no-no.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif So funny you forgot X8
BTW it is impossible to AAA shuffle and stelth at the same time
BTWAgain what is vivid member

ON TOPIC: I think DDR will be a very very popular sport someday (maybe in 25-30 even 40 years
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45. PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seven7 wrote:
Konami, dosen't care. Now if konami released a world version of say extreme, held sponsered tornys, and offered cash prizes, even small, then others whould take suit, and in theroy, you might, MIGHT be able to make a liveing out of ddr.


Actually, believe it or not, Konami did try something like this. Back in 2000 or 2001, when Konami made DDR USA, they held a national tournament of sorts through Internet Ranking mode called the Winter Dance Explosion IIRC. However, DDR USA was not a popular game. At $13,000 for a machine, it was too expensive for pretty much all but the biggest arcades, like Gameworks, Disney arcades, etc. Besides that, it was inferior to 3rd Mix and 4th Mix, which were also available and cheaper on top of it. So DDR USA flopped, and Konami's American arcade division closed soon afterwards. Of course, if Konami really wanted to, they could probably find some other way to set up a national DDR tournament in the States, but they either don't want to or like you said, don't care.

To keep this on topic, as others have said, in its current state, there's no way you're going to make a living off DDR. True, DDR is a national sport in Norway, but does anyone know anything about it beyond that? I'm not even sure what it means when something is a national sport. Is anything that's shown on ESPN a national sport? Because if it is, that means that sawing logs is a national sport here. I've seen the prizes for those competitions and they're $10,000 at best, with most others offering a few thousand dollars total which is split amongst the top competitors. You might be able to make a living off that, but you'd have to attend several competitions and at least place in the top 3 if not win every one of them. So, to be short and realistic, you can't make a living off DDR now or in the near future. Even if it becomes a national sport, it still may not be a totally viable career option either. You might be doing what you love, but love only goes so far when you need to keep a roof over your head.
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46. PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man you guys are so mean... i mean jesus i'd love to play DDR for a living. If i could do that i would drop out of school now. serious
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47. PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

although it does sound great, you can safely say its not gonna happen (anytime soon that is)

i thought i could make a living with ddr when i first started getting decent, but decent doesnt win tournaments
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48. PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alwowpal wrote:

BTW it is impossible to AAA shuffle and stelth at the same time
BTWAgain what is vivid member

ON TOPIC: I think DDR will be a very very popular sport someday (maybe in 25-30 even 40 years


BTW: You're wrong. There are only so many shuffle patterns. If you guess correctly, you can AAA it.

BTW: Someone who owns a cabinet/has direct ties to Konami/that sort of thing, IIRC

ON TOPIC: It's already dying/dead, depending on how you see it. I'd be surprised if its popularity lasted beyond 5 years. It'll only have the core set of fans who will still play over and over.
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49. PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For all of you who say "It could be possible" and then give reasons such as "get big names to sponsor" and "get some tv cameras and brodcast":

"Easier said than done."

You don't realize that even thought you are on a website with thousands and thousands of other "DDR Freaks", we are still the minority. DDR is not as popular as you may think. Try to think of the last time you turned on your TV and there was DDR. Ok? Now think of how often you see DDR on TV. Didn't think so.

Yes, we all agree that it would be great if we could live off of the thing we love doing and get all this fame and glory as well. Unfortunatly, theres just no demand for professional video games (at least in the US). Sorry.
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50. PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

psisar wrote:
I really, really hope this is a joke... but if it isn't;

DDR isn't a professional sport. When's the last time you turned on your TV and saw a DDR tournament? I'm gonna go ahead and say never.
At least you got your college education.


i concur.
In football baseball and basketball, there's different areas to play at.
First, junior high, then highschool, college, finally the NFL.
hey in karate, i still have a long time till i get my 10th degree black belt.

In DDR there's just light standard and heavy as your bread and butter playing.

Even though you can play for a long time until someone AAA bag x1, hidden, flat, shuffle, reverse.

if you want to enjoy life, show other ppl you are interested in other things.

it would b cool if DDR was an olympic or professional sport (id join biggrin.gif )

if ddr fails, your college degree will help out a lot (dont spend your life flippin burgers and spittin in milkshakes at mcdonalds)

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It's already dying/dead

hey DDR i think is better than ITG, jap games are cool, like anime is cooler than cartoons like codename kids nextdoor

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51. PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Da-RiSiN-sMoKe wrote:


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It's already dying/dead

hey DDR i think is better than ITG, jap games are cool, like anime is cooler than cartoons like codename kids nextdoor

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Please point out to me where I made mention of ITG, Japanese video games, or anime.
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52. PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: play it for living Reply with quote

yes i agree i would love to play ddr for a living i wish it was sport like basketball and baseball i really wish it was a sport so like there would be tournaments go out for champions playoffs and stuff but mostly strongly i agree on the topic i would love to play ddr for a living and a sport
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53. PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unit_Zero wrote:
DDR for a living=you living a cardboard box talking to imaginary people

You would have to be Take-esque to be able to do it for a living, I'd imagine even he has a real job


You know...I've always wanted to know what he does for a living...or is he going to a college/university.
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54. PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: play it for living Reply with quote

dancing machine 05 wrote:
yes i agree i would love to play ddr for a living i wish it was sport like basketball and baseball i really wish it was a sport so like there would be tournaments go out for champions playoffs and stuff but mostly strongly i agree on the topic i would love to play ddr for a living and a sport


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55. PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:11 am    Post subject: more thoughts on the topic Reply with quote

Hello Again!

It’s me, the original poster! Anyway after I posted and got like four negative responses, I was slightly amused at the maturity level, but not amused enough to remember to come back and check the forum.

It wasn’t until someone sent me a private, supportive message that went directly to my e-mail that I remembered to come back and check this board, so I apologize for my lack of responding.

First of all, thank you those who said something supportive! I really appreciate it! And also, I appreciate the realistic opinions as well. It’s good to stay grounded.

When I posted the original message I think I was just throwing an idea out there to test the waters and see what response I got. Obviously I can not go and get a traditional 9-5 job playing DDR. No one is saying that.

However, it was an idea I had. Wouldn’t it be great to play DDR for living? Or at least a part time job, lol. And if I just kept that idea in my head, no one would know about it, and it could never happen. Instead I was brave, I voiced the opinion to others, to let them know.

Anyway, I don’t need to prove myself to anyone here. But to demonstrate a point I will provide moderate background information. I graduated with a 3.9 GPA, as the Psi Chi President, and as a speaker at the annual end of the year banquet. No my parents did not pay for my education; I worked two jobs and won three scholarships. I did extremely well in college and graduated with a BA in Psychology, and a minor in Biology. I am currently taking some time off while preparing to go to graduate school.

Bashing my intelligence (or anyone’s for that matter) simply makes you look like an idiot.

That being said, I don’t really care if you do it. I understand that some feel the need to say negative/hurtful comments, but the truth is, if you don’t have something constructive to add to the conversation, do me a favor and push the little X button on the right hand corner of your browser. biggrin.gif *hug*

But back to DDR, I’ve heard some really great ideas for how to make a living off of it. My favorite two so far were having it at a gym to help people loose weight, and also opening up an arcade type thing with tvs and other game consoles.

I really like both of those ideas! Maybe sometime in the near future I will try to develop those into something larger! In the mean time, if anyone else is starting something up, then send me a message and I’ll help you out! I have excellent skills in organizing programs and activities so I could be an asset to anyone’s future plans of expanding DDR into more of a career area.

So here’s my resume: I’m cute, I’m intelligent, and I’m good at video games. If you are looking for an experienced DDR player, then let me know!
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56. PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: more thoughts on the topic Reply with quote

Cassima wrote:
bump with stuff that no one actually cares about anymore


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Take is at college at the moment, IIRC.
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57. PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't want people to tell you that they think the idea is pointless and it won't work? Don't post it in a public place such as this.

Freedom of speech...meaning if someone has an opinion, they have the right to say it.

Now, on these boards there are rules governing what you can and can't do with those rights. You cannot open up a new thread and say "OMFG! Look what this guy said in this thread here. blah blah blah...".
However, you are allowed to (and encouraged to) post opinions in the thread that was already started. You gave up you safety as soon as you took that idea out of your head and let the whole world know what you were thinking.

Now, about the playing DDR for a living thing:
You said "playing DDR for a living". We said "no".
Owning an arcade with a DDRmachine in it, or putting one in a gym for people to loose weight is not the same as playing DDR for a living. If you had originally stated "I want to open an arcade so I can make money off of other people playing DDR and I can play my DDR machine for free..." We would agree with you about that being a good idea, but your topic would probably be locked as soon as amod came around.

Basically, read the rules, post exactly what you mean and don't be vauge. If you aren't exact on your meaning, then prepare for people to take it the wrong way and don't get all hurt when people take it the wrong way.
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58. PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All you people flaming this guy, You guys need a spark in your life, hes just thinking, I at one point though of this to, But it isnt known to well, and it isnt a sport, It could be concidered a sport, but with cash prizeses and stuff you could think you could make a living, How about you finish college right, get a job doing something you Love/like (like playing ddr i suppose) then go play ddr after work weee, since your in college you could probaly get a good job, If you were a high school drop out , this would make sense (LOL I have NO idea what im talking about), but if your in college your not gonna drop out just to play ddr, If ddr was a sport, and widely reconized, then I supposed you can make a living, But for now...You Could say DDR is not going anywhere, since we're still playing the same mix for years (extreme), but ITG has something else going......................................................................................................................................................lalalala i dont know what i just typed
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59. PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the original poster, I briefly considered this too and have seen several people who started topics like this one get eaten like a cow in the amazon being devoured by a college of pirahnas so I never bring that up here.

My thoughts:
1) DDR for a living like getting paid to dance is likely to never happen.
2) Opening a store / arcade / fitness store featuring DDR and the like -- much better

And this is something I was considering myself:

Open a store that has a fitness / aerobics-like setup with parking for at least 10-20 patrons. Make your slogan "Dancing your way to fitness!" or something like that (no charge from me!) and enlist an aerobics instructor who likes DDR and now also get a bunch of PS2s and some pads that are velcroed or otherwise stuck firmly to the ground/carpet. You'd get everyone to play the same song but the only TV with sound would be the instructor's. After the introduction, the instructor could go around the room, give cordless headsets to the participants and they would be tuned directly to their own television (don't know if that would work or if there'd be static) and people could play their own songs at their difficulty of choice. There could be Doubles day or training on gallops and more difficult songs. You could even have a few machines in the store for after-session personal training available to play on a $$ per hour basis, much like some pool halls do. You could also have several copies of PS2 and XBox DDR on hand available to sell to those who say "OMG this is FUN!"

Obviously planning would need to be done but it could work to have your work revolve around DDR and make some money at it too.
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