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Move over DDR and ITG, here comes DANCE PRAISE!
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20. PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Open source, like the Bible! (Please don't kill me!) Reply with quote

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Why Chris Danford? Stepmania is an open-source program. If the DP folks don't use any copyrighted artwork or sounds, I don't really see how the Stepmania people can sue them.


its a violation of open source agrements to use open source stuff for a profit
IIRC, open source has to be free, or it can't be open source, but I'm not entirely sure about that. Its complicated, but you could dig up lots of info on the licsensing via GNU.
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21. PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I smell a lawsuit............
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22. PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a Christian, I've always thought Christian music was a crappy idea to attempt to connect with people because it's painstakingly obvious no one would give up media-influenced stuff for "Worship Jamz".

this is basically the same thing. DDR > Dance Praise.
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23. PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larrikin wrote:
Are you talking about couples? I thought that Shadow Dancer was the one player making the steps up and the other copying.

Couples is where you have two players, a single difficulty between them, and a unique stepchart for both sides with steps that complement each other. It's been on at least 2ndMIX.

Step Battle is similar to a game of Simon Says. A full measure of blank arrows (Imagine four 1/4th beat ItG four-arrow handplants, blank as in having no distinct color between them) scroll up the screen, and one of the players (Exactly which player is chosen escapes me) does a little jig for one or two measures. After another one or two blank measures, the recorded arrows scroll up the screen for both players, and the process repeats two or three more times. It's been a while since I've played this mode. frown.gif

As for others, there's Unison from the 3rdMIX family which is similar to a co-op mode where a single set of arrows scrolls up the middle of the screen and the scoring is based on how both players do. Battle mode, from the 4thMIX/DDRPC family is where arrows scroll up from the middle of the screen and split off to either side: blue arrows drift to Player1, Red to Player2, and green to both. In essence, it's a glorified Couples mode in that the steps compliment each other, yet the two players are competing. Magic Dance from the Disney MIXes is.. Well, it's what ItG's battle mode is a copy of, if you've ever seen that. Two players competing, gameplay tosses mods between the players.
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24. PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow they're finally gonna release Churchanoia, The legend of Mass, and, my favorite, AfroJesus.
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25. PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tekkie wrote:
Wow they're finally gonna release Churchanoia, The legend of Mass, and, my favorite, AfroJesus.


Let's not forget Jehovah Machine Survivor#(number sign). I hear it's 15 crosses on Ultimate difficulty. E15.gif laugh.gif

Geez, what's with all the dancing game clones lately? Kids these days... (sigh)
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26. PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this an earnest effort to counterbalance ddr's sinful influences on the world's youth. [/sarcasm]
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27. PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't stand the thought of dancing to contemporary music. >.<
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28. PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, I'm a Buhddist happy.gif Anyways, the idea is stupid. Konami can, and will sue to protect their rights. Big corporations are just evil like that. Didn't they see what happened to RoXor? Though ITG does rules.

Tekkie wrote:
Wow they're finally gonna release Churchanoia, The legend of Mass, and, my favorite, AfroJesus.


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29. PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tekkie wrote:
Wow they're finally gonna release Churchanoia, The legend of Mass, and, my favorite, AfroJesus.

and some classics
Jesus -Respect-
Mosus (K.O.G. G3 Mix)
Thou shall not clock me
And many more!
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30. PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shadow dance.... i swear they have that in 2nd Remix.... i just don't remember what it's called
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31. PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shadow dance.... i swear they have that in 2nd Remix.... i just don't remember what it's called


Paint (it was in 2nd MIX *ac* as well). IIRC, wasnt it that you did the arrows first with teh song, then re-play it?
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Tomo_kun wrote:
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Shadow dance.... i swear they have that in 2nd Remix.... i just don't remember what it's called
Paint (it was in 2nd MIX *ac* as well). IIRC, wasnt it that you did the arrows first with teh song, then re-play it?
Paint was where you could design the visual appearance of the arrows yourself (IE turn them from left.gif down.gif up.gif right.gif into, say, A B C D). You could even take the Paint file with you to the arcade and play on the custom arrow skins.
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33. PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can't imagine many poeple buying this game. the only poeple that may be interested are probably already ddr freaks...in wich case they have ddr already. furthur more, how does making ddr with another sound track and slapping on a different label make a totally different game? a lot of people got on my case about how i don't like ITG just because it's not ddr, but i don't like it because IT IS DDR! sounds like they are all the same game, it's just not fair to konami and they have every right to sue and they should...even though it'll probably bomb anyway (let's hope)
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34. PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I get down and he lifts me up" laugh.gif

Seriously, why would Konami even bother suing? They ran out of change to buy a soda?
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35. PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed.

Konami sued Roxor because ITG was potentially a serious threat to DDR's home market in the US and a threat to the arcade and home market in Japan.

On the other hand, I don't envision this game even selling 20 copies, let alone 100 grand. Konami doesn't have anything to worry about with these guys, they're just out to make a cheap buck (good luck with that, LOL). They'll go out of business once they realize nobody wants to have anything to do with their obvious DDR rip-off with Christian songs thrown in. If this game were to be successful, THEN Konami would sue.
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36. PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Konami sued Roxor because ITG was potentially a serious threat to DDR's home market in the US and a threat to the arcade and home market in Japan.


You. Are. WAYYYYYYYYYYY-HAY-HAY-HAYYYY. Off.
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37. PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reenee wrote:
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Konami sued Roxor because ITG was potentially a serious threat to DDR's home market in the US and a threat to the arcade and home market in Japan.


You. Are. WAYYYYYYYYYYY-HAY-HAY-HAYYYY. Off.


That's why I used the word "potentially". Read first.

For all we know, Roxor might have gone financially bankrupt had they just released ITG as a home-version. People probably might have said "Wow, they completely ripped off DDR. What a piece a crap!!1!", and nobody would have bought it. Of course, Roxor knew they had to get exposure to ITG first to see if it would sell. So they designed an arcade version to get it out in the open. Where they went wrong was designing the Boxors to only work in a *dun-dun-dunnnnn* DDR cabinet, their main competition, their reasoning being, "Oh well, the machines are illegal imports anyway, and Konami isn't going to make another arcade mix, so we'll just use their cabs 'cause it's cheaper anyway". Konami obviously didn't like the fact that their intellectual property was being compromised, so they sued Roxor in hopes that it would cast a doom cloud on the home version, which Roxor went ahead and made since the arcade version was fairly successful. Konami didn't like Roxor taking away its "free home version advertising" by gutting out DDR cabs. In any case, it's in the hands of the courts, now.

As far as Dance Praise goes, I envisioning this doing about as well as MC Dance Groovz, if even that. Konami might sue them anyway, but I doubt the makers of this game are much of a threat to Konami as it stands.
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38. PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where they went wrong was designing the Boxors to only work in a *dun-dun-dunnnnn* DDR cabinet


It works in a DMX cabinet too. Your point being?
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39. PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In other news, If someone can give me a low res video of this, and a couple screenshots, ill bet that i could make a stepmania theme of that in a very very small ammount of time.

no joke. Lets pirate the pirated game.
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