PSMO VS. Pandemonium

Vangulus The Great · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject: PSMO VS. Pandemonium

The hardest song in DDR VS. the hardest song in ITG.
Due to the differences in these 2 games,it's not quite simple to just pick one,but to those who play,know,or think they know both of them,what do you think is more deserving of their highest rank of difficulty and why?

[ES] GARYsurvivor · Trick Member Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood, CO

Well, there is the fact that Pandemonium is a 13 and PSMO is a 10. I think that answers that one.

Vangulus The Great · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject:

[ES] GARYsurvivor · Trick Member Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood, CO

I have played both. The 10's on ITG are supposed to be similar to 10's on DDR. Pandemonium is so impossible I don't see how people have been able to pass it.

Vangulus The Great · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:38 pm Post subject:

The Winner by TKO!
Pandemonium!!!

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[ES] GARYsurvivor · Trick Member Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood, CO

I mean, as far as I know, which isn't very far. I would think they would try to make them similar...

Deuce · Trick Member Joined: 23 Jun 2005

Yeah ive played both and im close to passing psmo now and miles away from pandemonium expert, and ten is technically the highest step rating for ddr but the flashing 10 footers are harder than all the regular 10 footers so yes they probably would be above 10 if they had a rank higher than 10...

pandemonium over psmo, ill even go with a KO on this one not just a TKO.
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MRJ8 · Trick Member Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Location: NJ

I can pass both and Pandemonium Expert is tons hard than psmo, with or without mines.
"Well, there is the fact that Pandemonium is a 13 and PSMO is a 10. I think that answers that one."
lol that was good and the truth, not a competition 13 is higher than 10.
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lol its evan · Trick Member Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Location: omaha, nebraska

no contest. can consistantly pass psmo with an a or better no bar, but i have yet to pass pandy with the bar, my best is like 60% of the way through with 43.XX%. pandemonium just has harder steps, and its longer.
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SynfulSquirrel · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:48 pm Post subject:

personally i think both abide quite well by the boundaries of each game...

...with PSMO - yes, 10 [ flashing 10, whatever..] is as high as it goes.. but its the most challenging on ddr. But it doesnt compare to adding another what, 30 seconds on?
..I've failed PSMO consistantly in the last 20 steps or so...
..I've aslo failed Panedmonium about 2/3 of the way through with varrying percentages...

Pandy, IMO, deserves to be ranked higher; because due to its length and steps and such, it does require more energy/stamina (even if you do use the bar), - the length/speed all factor in...

..but in the long run, you can't really compare the two... its like asking "Which is better, DDR or ITG?"...it'll end up in debate nonetheless. Either way though, i find both systems to seem to be fitting step/level-wise ..(maybe a slight argument for witch doctor...)... but in truth - they're fine the way they are marked/leveled/whatever...

..jus my 2 cents....
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I can last 8 seconds on both of them, so they must be exactly the same

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Arguing over this is stupid and pointless. One of ITG's main selling points is that it's harder than DDR. For the people who are saying "Pandemonium is a 13, PSMO is a 10", The level systems in each game are different. Pandemonium isn't precisely 1.3x harder than PSMO is it?
They are both hard. End of discussion.
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ihcw.stefank687 · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jun 2005

OK... i have passed both... and in all seriousness Pandy on HARD makes PSMO look like a joke.... expert makes PSMO look like butterfly.... im serious...the jump patterns in pandemonium and the sheer number of steps makes PSMO's "death run" look like a joke... i mean....PSMO is more easily comparable to somthing like mythology's ending... Try playing it once on feet and you'll see what i mean

Blamm0 · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:44 am Post subject:

I have yet to try pandy expert, but i have gotten an A with integrity on psmo and a B on Bmr's V. and uhh... psmo is just all about the last 20 seconds. thats really the only thing that makes it any hard. given, those last 20 seconds do make up a good 1/4->1/5 of the song, but pandy (as i have seen from the stepmania steps) has a consistent difficulty, making at so that you have to be at a whole different level all together to pass it, or get halfway through at that.
pandy is faster with more straightforward steps, sort of like the steps you would see in a 150 bpm song but on cocaine.
psmo has frantic steps, harder to read on 1x, it is slower than most 10's, but the thing that makes it hard is the tech required.
in my opinion, pandemonium is only a tad harder than psmo.
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