DDR Freak really to cover ITG

[djfmf]

[Wakka Lakka]

[djfmf]

sorry, the first sentence was meant for you. i just led on with my opinion on this whole topic regarding other people who have biased opinions on ITG vs DDR.

[Reiska]

My guess is that Konami continues to make DDR home versions in Japan because they're very cheap to produce, because last I've heard none of the PS2 mixes, not even Extreme, have managed to sell even 100,000 copies in Japan. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

As for DDR vs. ITG, the argument's stupid. Arcade DDR is *dead*. The fact that there hasn't been a new mix in two and a half years when they were coming out every six months prior to that should be clear evidence of that fact. ITG's taking/taken over the niche that DDR no longer fills. I realize there are some people here who refuse to see ITG as anything but a ripoff, and it may in fact be one... and I could care less.

There also seems to be a sentiment that people who have been playing DDR longer are less receptive to ITG. I can't speak for the community as a whole, but I _can_ say that I started playing DDR in July of _2001_, on 4th Mix arcade, and have owned the Japanese imports of 2nd/3rd/4th/Extra/5th Mix on PSX, as well as every single US home release of DDR, and have played at varying times in arcade DDR USA, 3rd Mix KV2, 4th Mix, 4th Mix Plus, 5th Mix, MAX2, Extreme, and even Dancing Stage featuring Dreams Come True (really!), and you know what? After two and a half years, I'm freaking sick and tired of DDR Extreme. It's becoming nearly impossible to find any mix BUT Extreme anywhere I go these days and I've played out nearly every single song on it to the point I can't stand to hear half of them anymore. ITG is a _breath of fresh air_ to me. It may not be terribly innovative on the DDR principle? But it's recaptured for me the fun that had LONG since been absent from DDR, and ITG's Marathon mode is far more fun than Oni or Nonstop ever were.

So I say to the detractors: MOVE ON. Give ITG a try with an open mind. Don't like hands? You can see exactly how many are in a song before you select it. Heck, ITG gives you far more detailed song information before selection than DDR could ever hope to: exact number of steps, freezes, jumps, hands, and mines. Hands and mines may be hard to get used to at first, but once you do, they're insanely fun, at least to me. I feel challenged by the arrow-stomping game again, and that's what was long missing from DDR: challenge that went beyond "LOL I can hit 25 arrows a second." Sure, ITG has a lot of that (see Pandemonium/Hardcore of the North), but it also has a lot of difficult tech songs that don't rely on insane speed, like Bend Your Mind and ROM-eo & Juli8.

Plus, with a high score entry for every single song and every single difficulty, players who can't AAA everything can feel good at something again. Even if I can't dominate the Hard (heavy) scores, I have my name plastered all over Medium (standard) here.

I just am so tired of seeing people hating on ITG so much without any reasons beyond "OMG DDR ripoff!!!!111!one." Get a real argument, folks.

[Cutriss]

STOP.

If you are about to make a post talking about ITG or DDR, then just STOP.

This is Site Feedback, and this thread is for feedback about our decision to cover ITG as well as DDR. This is *NOT* a thread for ITG vs. DDR debate.
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[djfmf]

i have no problem that you guys are going to include an In The Groove topic on DDR Freak, both are pretty similar in gameplay anyways. it's like if there was a Mario DDR game in the arcade you guys would probably make a seperate section for that too(if the game was really interesting). just wondering, is DDR Mario going to be made by Konami?

anyways, i do feel that since ITG has it's own ITGFREAK website that it should be more informative and that if DDRFREAK would have a topic pertaining to ITG you would just supply us with upcoming news and other ITG issues. otherwise we should "technically" go to ITGFREAK for more detailed information i guess.

[Aaron_Kwok]

Holy friggin' geez....

Come on guys, some people like DDR better than ITG, and some people like ITG better than DDR. Everybody is different. The fact of the matter is that ITG is growing rapidly, and I think it's smart on DDRFreak's part to begin covering it. It really doesn't matter whether you like ITG or not, the fact of the matter is that ITG has a good chance of getting bigger and better than DDR. Personally, I like both, and I still play both. Besides all that, this isn't a debate thread, so could we maybe agree to disagree?

Anyway, good show DDRFreak, I think this is smart, but I do have a question. When are you guys going to get all the stepcharts up for ITG?
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[Thunderbird]

Something I'd like to point out: The stepchart links for Mellow (in the ITG songlist) are pointing to Have You Never Been Mellow .

Also, the ITG PS2 version is listed as having no unlocks. According to the songlist posted on the official site, the unlocks are the same as the arcade.

[Cutriss]