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NSMH
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20.  Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | But I still think of the game as a personal slap in the face. |
Umm.. yeah... ITG is a public game... not a measure to annoy you personally... |
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Phrekwenci
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| 21. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| Necrosis wrote: | | Quote: | | But I still think of the game as a personal slap in the face. |
Umm.. yeah... ITG is a public game... not a measure to annoy you personally... |
I'm sure it wasn't meant that way. But it just turned out to be so.
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voldekillssnape
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| 22. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| This is a awsome merger \^^/ |
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jaded2003
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| 23. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:32 am Post subject: Itg? |
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Ok, well... After thinking it over i agree with some people in the fact that ITG is a DDR Ripoff, I really think the original should stay original... At the same time i really dont like to see game companies fight, cause usually in videogames when companies fight.. Something always happends that affects the original game, and the ripoff game, and for the mostpart, it is always bad. There are a few good debates, but not many, so after trying to discard the debate, i sort of embrace it as reality.. I do believe a seperate ITG site is a good idea, but dont modify, DDRFreak's original site.. Just put a seperate link up there that basically says "If your intrested in ITG, insted of DDR click here" That way you dont have to mess with the original DDRFreak site. Thats my opinion at least.
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Uiru
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| 24. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| Deus Ex Machina wrote: | They're going to say nuts to over 40,000 members of the DDR community because they like other games?
You suck at logic. |
And since when have we mattered? KCEH asking about the best and worst songs of UM2 is probably the extent to which our opinion(s) have been heard. And 'other games' is one thing, a direct copy of your game, running in the cabinets you provide, is quite another. (Which supports mines, the general idea of which was taken out of DDR a whole frigging long time ago, and hands, which the arcade hardware is not really suited for... plus a long list of retarded mods, the vast majority of which are either useless or require memorization of the song in the first place. WOO) The very idea of aquiring an ITG machine pretty much means you're losing a DDR machine, which sends a very clear signal.
I'll accept this when I see ddr.itgfreak.com (hey look, another blatant copy). Until then, ddrfreak is effectively jumping on the ITG Is The Future bandwagon, which is hardly supportive of our already terrified Konami reps.
But whatever.
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IguanaGrrl
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| 25. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:38 am Post subject: |
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You DO realize that this is in no way the 'original' DDR Freak site.
Things evolve over time, including site content.
In any case, if the Konami reps are as scared as is claimed, then we will see a new and improved version of DDR coming out at E3 this year and more effort being put into trying to keep the market.
Competition = good for consumers, and DDR Freak is not REQUIRED to stick only with DDR. DDR Freak is a consumer of the product, just the same as any of you.
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Rychan
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| 26. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Uiru wrote: | | Deus Ex Machina wrote: | They're going to say nuts to over 40,000 members of the DDR community because they like other games?
You suck at logic. |
And since when have we mattered? KCEH asking about the best and worst songs of UM2 is probably the extent to which our opinion(s) have been heard. And 'other games' is one thing, a direct copy of your game, running in the cabinets you provide, is quite another. (Which supports mines, the general idea of which was taken out of DDR a whole frigging long time ago, and hands, which the arcade hardware is not really suited for... plus a long list of retarded mods, the vast majority of which are either useless or require memorization of the song in the first place. WOO) The very idea of aquiring an ITG machine pretty much means you're losing a DDR machine, which sends a very clear signal.
I'll accept this when I see ddr.itgfreak.com (hey look, another blatant copy). Until then, ddrfreak is effectively jumping on the ITG Is The Future bandwagon, which is hardly supportive of our already terrified Konami reps.
But whatever.
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I love the logic and I agree with it whole heartedly.
Of course if Konami were to use the fear to release another version they'd have to probably take the foot ratings up to 15 for all the kiddies who seem to think that anything 10 or higher is actually fun 
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Uiru
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| 27. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:43 am Post subject: |
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I only hope that is true.
edit: In light of Rychan's edit, I will also edit and say that I was not talking about 15 step songs. :p
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| 28. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Guys, stop with the arguments - there are other places for those. This thread isn't for bashing DDR or bashing ITG.
It's for bashing DDR Freak. >.>
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| 29. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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I still want to be able to list solitary PIU machines in the locations list. Just because we have an overseas fanbase doesn't mean we shouldn't be included in this mess.
Screw it, let's just change the title(not domain) to Dancing Games Freak.
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Daniel
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| 30. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| thepinkdoomofmonkeys wrote: |
Screw it, let's just change the title(not domain) to Dancing Games Freak. |
That's the only reasonable idea ever suggested in this entire thread. Konami has no immediate plans to make a new serious arcade mix so we can't stay focused on DDR anymore. ITG is continuing the legacy of 4 panel rhythm panel stepping, so love or like it we need to support them. But why stop there? After DDRFreak becomes DDR+ITGFreak, we should continue to expand to include more PIU content. PIU offers more challenge than DDR/ITG and deserves more attention. And finally a new 5 panel dancing game entitled Neon FM is being released. Rhythm panel games are evolving to find new ways to keep the challenge perpetual. We should follow in this direction. |
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PedanticOmbudsman
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| 31. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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It's wonderful to see DDR and ITG listed side-by-side in the Machine Locations. I travel on business every week, and I've always hated having to check two sites to try to figure out where to hit during my free time in my destination city. It's great that we can now see a single list of all DDR and ITG machines. Now if you'd just add Pump It Up to the version list as well (so they can be entered as full-fledged machines, not just "other games"), it would be perfect.
I like to "circuit train" by switching back and forth between games when I'm at an arcade that has more than one of DDR, ITG, and PIU (and maybe Para Para Paradise or Beatmania when I have to catch my breath), and this is a good step in the right direction of making it easier to find such places. |
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Arctic Wolves
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| 32. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Cutriss wrote: | | It's for bashing DDR Freak. >.> |
leik omg u cant cuvr ddr and igt!!11 dnacing gmaes r sooo stewpid LOL this syte SUX LOLOMG
I think regardless of the inconsistency with the name "DDRFreak," it's essentially more convenient to have a database with songs and stepcharts for both of the arrow smashing games I play. And in light of that practicality, I must say I don't mind the change at all. |
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ColorOfSakura
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| 33. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Some of you also seem to either not be aware of, or have forgotten about the website ITGFreak, which is the DDRFreak for ITG. They have songlists and stepcharts there as well as forums.
Now, I am excited that DDRFreak has decided to put some more focus on ITG and hopefully other dance games.
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Catastrophe
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| 34. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject: Screw The Arcade |
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| Daniel wrote: | | Konami has no immediate plans to make a new serious arcade mix so we can't stay focused on DDR anymore. |
The arcade is not the center of the video game universe. (anymore)
Dance games are more commonly played at home than in the arcade.
Konami didn't stop making arcade versions because the game wasn't popular enough. They stopped making arcade machines because the format wasn't popular enough. This is why there wast just one Dreamcast DDR game, but lots of Playstation DDR games. Konami gives it's fans their games in the format they want them in. It's true that some hardcore players want arcade versions for the social aspect, but some hardcore players prefer to pay $40 once and not 25 cents per song. And of course all the casual people want home versions instead. The number of home version people easily outnumber the arcade people. Hence, the XBox and PS2 DDR series sell more and more copies each with each new addition to the family. And since the fans asked for it, we're getting DDR on the GameCube too! Look at Japan as an example. DDR is supposed to be 'dead' over there since the arcade machines dissapeared. But if DDR is dead, then why does Konami continue to make PS2 games for that region? Could it be that everyone just went home to play DDR?
So screw the arcade versions. There's plenty to focus on at home.
| Quote: | | ITG is continuing the legacy of 4 panel rhythm panel stepping, so love or like it we need to support them. |
No. They aren't continuing anything. First, ITG is it's own game. You're doing the developers a disservice by saying that they're merely following in DDR's footsteps. They want to be different. Second, go read Konami's recent press release from Gamer's Day where they announce how many DDR home versions they've sold just recently. I'll wait. ... So does it sound like DDR is passing the torch? I don't think so. Sales haven't declined for a single year yet. To everybody except you, DDR is still the leader of the dance-game market with almost all of the market share. PIU and ITG aren't going to have the slightest impact on the gaming world until their home versions ship for the PS2. (Which I'm looking foward to.)
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| 35. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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...well, although I feel kind of weird stating this so far into the conversation:
Its nice to know that DDRfreak can include the other, 'not-quite-so-popular' (as of now, anyways) dance games, because they are just as important as DDR. I hope the site continues to expand in these directions, including more and more games as time goes by. As long as they don't forget about DDR, I'm all for the slight change.
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| 36. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Did anyone else notice that the itg.ddrfreak is gone?
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PedanticOmbudsman
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| 37. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| 38. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeffreyw wrote: | | Everythings normal again what a surprise. |
Looks like I wasn't the only one who noticed it. That is quoted from the DDR Freak to Cover ITG in the ITG section.
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| 39. Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Mobile Mayhem wrote: | | Jeffreyw wrote: | | Everythings normal again what a surprise. |
Looks like I wasn't the only one who noticed it. That is quoted from the DDR Freak to Cover ITG in the ITG section. |
Are you trying to say that the ITG coverage is gone? Because it isn't. http://itg.ddrfreak.com still works. The machine locations in that section are for ITG, not DDR.
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