RedOctane Ignition v2.0 / BNS DX Ignition

cranium · Basic Member Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Orlando, FL

I just got off the phone with a RO rep. about weight limits and quaility of the ignition pads.

The weight limit is stated to be 250 lbs for both the metal and ignition pads.

Apparently, they changed factories that manufacture their pads last year and it introduced some issues. They are fully aware of the issues with the down arrows.

The issue with the Ignition pads, according to the rep, is Xbox specific. He stated that if the problem is occuring on an Xbox that it typically still works fine on a PS2 (I've seen this observation posted on this forum before).

He also stated that it was a fairly small run of the pads that went to retail stores and that the ones they have at RO are solid and without the issue.

I asked if I could return my Ignition pad to them (it's within warranty) and just wait until they have fixed the issue before I get my replacement and they wouldn't.

Therefore RO doing warranty exchanges with pads that also may have the same issue.

I wonder what the legalities of selling product with known quality flaws are?

The only way to get a good pad is to beat the heck out the replacements and keep exchanging them within the warranty period until they fix the issue.

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helacious_me_06 · Trick Member Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Location: ferndale, mi

ok this is what happened. i played ddr extreme on ps2 like 3 days ago. and my RO ignition was working fine. and last nite i packed in the carry case and brought it to my friend's house who has ultra mix 2. and when i plugged it in and everything only the A, B, left arrow, and up arrow worked. later we tryed everything again and only the A, B, and up arrow worked. i haven't tryed it back on my ps2 back at home yet because i left it at her house. does anyone know what's going on???!

superduperblake · Trick Member Joined: 29 Jul 2004

Hmm, BOTH of my pads are doing that with my xbox. Hmm..

I tried on a PS2, they work MORE then perfectly, and as well as my Computer.

But I would rather it work on my xbox.

DDR Seth · Trick Member Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Location: Maryland

meh, xbox mixes sux0r anyway.

nuttyturnip · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:51 am Post subject:

helacious_me_06 · Trick Member Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Location: ferndale, mi

does anyone know like if you use the PS2 outlet and stick a XBOX adaptor on it, will it work that way?

fortyseven · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:48 am Post subject: Re: MAJOR decrease in quality...

ghosx · Trick Member Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Location: Your heart

what is better:

1. The red octane soft pad?
2.the pad that comes with the Ultramix 2 bundle; I have this and never tried any other pads and My pad is looking pretty ghetto becasue I have duct tape all over on it and a sheet of somekind of wood ( not plywood )

is the red octane aquard compared to any other pad or is it perfect?
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what happened?!?!?!

nuttyturnip · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject:

The Red Octane is one of the better alternatives to paying $200-$300 for a metal pad. It's definitely better than the soft pad, unfortunately, there's a flaw that keeps it from working with the Xbox. See above posts for details , but after a few weeks, the down arrow on the Red Octane stops working completely on the Xbox.

_cellardoor · Trick Member Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Location: michigan

i have an RO ignition 2.0, after about a week and a half of playing eight or so hours a day on my ps2 the back arrow went out. since there's a warranty, i don't mind at all since i love this pad. i'd go so far as to say it's better than the cobalt flux pads on several levels.

nuttyturnip · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject:

phonyreal · Trick Member Joined: 17 Mar 2005

I just got a pair of BNS pads a few days ago, and my sister and i have been playing 8-10 hours a day combined (i'm on spring break and have nothing better to do), and I haven't had a problem with the pads, other than a stuck button, but that's because my 2 year old cousin was standing on the down arrow.

fortyseven · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:30 am Post subject:

Note that RO does not refer to their current Ignition pad as the Ignition 2.0.

The original 2.0, or at least the one I bought a while ago, had step-activated LED lights on the circuit board, came with three (not six) interlocking foam inserts, and did not have an dual-adapter plug for the Xbox. The original 2.0 was a great pad, which most seem to agree on. The current RO Ignition is not, which most also seem to agree on.

An original 2.0 new-in-the-box would be worth buying if you could find one, but I wouldn't get what RO is making now.

wathomas777 · Trick Member Joined: 27 Feb 2005

I recently purchased some third party ignitions for the x-box from ebay (the store is innex) and overall I am pretty impressed. (especially for the price of $12.99 a piece plus shipping and handling (27.99 shipping for a total of $52 total for two pads)

The pads have fairly good response and are much better than the gamestop pads I had been using. The pads rarely move, even on carpet, and most of the time I get good performance.

However where the pads sometimes fail is on jump steps, especially after playing awhile. It seems the "foam" (which is not the newest very dense foam) seems to get indented causing the sensors not to reset as fast as I would like.

I have since purchased some foam inserts from red octane to replace the cheap foam that the pads came with.

I know the foam I'm getting from red octane has to be heavier material. The shipping weight of the two inserts is nearly 9 lbs, whereas the shipping weight of my pads (both) was only approximately 3 lbs.

The question is, just how important is the foam insert. Will the harder foam from red octane help in sensitivity and performance?

If the red octane foam really helps, that might be a good alternative to more expensive pads. Red octane foam is available at 10 bucks a piece now with only 4.95 shipping (if super saver is used),

If this works, then I should have esentially two pretty high quality pads for a total of $75

Has anyone else bought third party pads and replaced the foam with RO foam?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Spasmodic · Basic Member Joined: 19 Mar 2005

I'm sorry if this has been talked about already, but I need some help. I'm looking for pads with the clothy-nylon type surface, not the shiny plastic kind. I currently have the BNS Ultra DX-Xtreme pads, but due to the slick plastic surface, my feet stick to it, and when I wear socks, I slide all over the place.. It also creases and crinkles a lot as well. The kind I'm looking for look exactly like the BNS ones, but with a different surface. My friend said the RO pads are the kind with the nylon surface.. are they? Hrm.. Also, are there 2 different kinds of RO Ignition 2.0 pads or something? I was searching around for them, and I got found both of these, supposedly the same brand-

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00025LDT0.01-A1NDBS7YGOPBD6._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://holy_knight_7.tripod.com/ignitionpad.gif

Erm.. anyways, I'd really appreciate it if someone could recommend a site where I can get pads that look something like this- http://holy_knight_7.tripod.com/ignitionpad.gif with a nylon surface. Thanks. ^_^

wathomas777 · Trick Member Joined: 27 Feb 2005

Sakura 300 · Trick Member Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Location: Massachussets

My right arrow is dieing on this pad, finally.I've had it for three months but i really beat the hell out of it on 10's so i didn't expect it to last long.Oh well...

v4 · Trick Member Joined: 14 Feb 2005

redoctane is now coming up with a version 3 ignition wonder if its any better and i guess it needs a new thread too. Hopefully they fixed all those problems i heard about but only time will tell. http://www.redoctane.com/ignitionpadv3.html if anyone is interested