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20. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Bono wrote:
Best. Thread. Ever.


More like best axiomatic verdacity ever.
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21. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AK (Vanilla x Mint Mix) wrote:
John Bono wrote:
Best. Thread. Ever.


More like best axiomatic verdacity ever.


What does that phrase actually mean? I know that an axiom is like a law, but that just adds to the confusion. Help me.
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22. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What does that phrase actually mean? I know that an axiom is like a law, but that just adds to the confusion. Help me.


Who cares? Let's just say it for no reason. Axiomatic verdacity!!!!
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23. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Axiomatic verdacity!!!! [axiomatic party]
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24. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's throw an axiomatic party! YEAH!
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25. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This entire thread = axiomatic stupidity ( laugh.gif )

Wow, Mireille's really mad . . . at something . . .
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26. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AK (Vanilla x Mint Mix) wrote:
Let's throw an axiomatic party! YEAH!


How did you find that? That was THE funniest thing that I have seen all week.

If you bring the chips and drinks, I'll bring the dip and balloons. NOW we can have a real axiomatic party.
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27. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How did you find that? That was THE funniest thing that I have seen all week.

If you bring the chips and drinks, I'll bring the dip and balloons. NOW we can have a real axiomatic party.


4chan, of course, and you've got it. What kind of chips would you like? And I've got sodas!
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AK (Vanilla x Mint Mix) wrote:
yoshi334 wrote:
How did you find that? That was THE funniest thing that I have seen all week.

If you bring the chips and drinks, I'll bring the dip and balloons. NOW we can have a real axiomatic party.


4chan, of course, and you've got it. What kind of chips would you like? And I've got sodas!


Well, you have to have the BBQ, then any other flavor you like, except Salt and Vinagar. Do you want cheese or sour cream and onion dip? I like SC&O. I'll bring some chocolate ice cream, also.

(what does "4chan, of course, and you've got it." mean?)

Do you want this party to go down at my house? I've got a pool table. biggrin.gif
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29. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gee, seeing as you are all frickin enlightened, don't you think there are more relevant things to dwell on than an arcade game?
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30. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gee, seeing as you are all frickin enlightened, don't you think there are more relevant things to dwell on than an arcade game?


Sure, like the axiomatic party!
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31. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Axiomatic party! Who can say it backwards? I can!

Ytrap citamoixa!

Axiomatic party at my house! All who are axiomatic enough are invited! Free helium!
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I am so there! Axiomania! Yeah!
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If enough people come, we can throw KY wrestling matches! And set helium balloons on fire!
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34. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, keep it on topic or don't post.

To the OP:

First off, if you're going to talk about anything that's "deep" then you should go in to as much detail as possible. Saying "I think that the way we look at the game is flawed" says nothing about what you're wanting to say.

"I think the sky is descriptive." That's great. How? Why?

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The mechanisms that drive society nowadays seems to have skipped over DDR as we know it. Many feel lost amongst the ever-turning and ever-unforgiving nature of materialism. The way we view DDR is inherently flawed because we don't know that it is flawed. You see, the view of man as DDR player is drastically different from man as man. When we have a gap as large as this one, one cannot conclude anything other than the fact that there is an inherent flaw in our view of playing DDR.


I don't see how the fact that people struggle between materialism and spirituality translates in to a view of DDR being inherently flawed. Not knowing something is flawed doesn't necessarily make the view flawed. And what is that view? Again, be descriptive if you're going to try to make a point.

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The need for expression is apparent.


Why is it a "need?" I don't "need" to play DDR. I haven't played in awhile. I don't feel less whole as a person or that something is missing in my life. If I don't play DDR I do not slowly wither away.

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When we are faced with such a thing as DDR, we view playing DDR as a necessity.


Why exactly?

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Playing DDR is not a necessity, but we view it as such.


Says who? I know people who are very in to it, but it's not like eating or breathing. And those people who are so "hardcore" that they do feel a "loss" are not indicative of the entire DDR playing population. That's also not a permanent situation. And because it's not a permanent situation it isn't really the same type of "need" that you are talking about. It's more of a strong desire.

In all honesty, it sounds like you just want to sound smart and throw words out. Your argument doesn't logically follow (or you're not explaining something major, and even then...). I don't see how people view playing DDR as a need. I don't see how we need to play DDR. I don't see how materialism (or spirituality) has anything to do with DDR. I guess you could say that people need to collect every game and have the best pad and so they spend a lot of money and become too focused on the game...but again that's only a temporary thing. DDR is a fad and it will pass.
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35. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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word dude. that was the most awesome thing i have ever seen.

inz you are the new ddr intellectual.
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36. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand what you're trying to say, but, I agree with Spike in how it seems like you're throwing around "big" words to try and impress people, and it's not working.

You see, the view of man as DDR player is drastically different from man as man.

That's not true at all. I don't see people any different because I play DDR. Even if it was taken seriously enough to be considered a lifestyle, DDR doesn't affect the brain the same way. If you don't want to talk to someone because they're a "dick n00b who can't pass PSMO", that's your own ignorance. It has nothing to do with DDR.

One cannot conclude anything other than the fact that there is an inherent flaw in our view of playing DDR.

Wrong again. As Spike said, there are plenty of people who play for fun and don't shape their mental conditioning around the game. I don't scream or jump up and down when I get blackflags or throw/break things if I get an NC. While some people may act like that, it more than likely has nothing to do with the game itself, rather; a personality trait of their own.
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There is someone in this thread named Spike?
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The admin whose name is written in Hebrew (two posts above me). His internet handle is Spike, or, it used to be.
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39. PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all of the constructive support, and for those who feel it is important to analyze one phrase that I have used repeatedly and try to derail the stimulating brainstorming and flow of ideas that is occurring within this thread, I pity you because this material is obviously way beyond your comprehension.

Now, with that said, we know the following to be true:

1. Not ALL people who play DDR view it as an absolute necessity. I think this is quite obvious, and for you to assume that I did not assume this already is counterproductive to the direction that I am trying to take this discussion. No need to dwell on the fact that YOU individually do not find it a necessity, but there are those, in general, who do, and that is the focus of my discussion.

2. If we can deduce that our view of playing DDR is not in any way flawed, then we have a problem. Because you see, on the one hand, there are those who will try to debunk my statements with individual examples that do not hold for all of the population. On the other hand, there are those that see the implied truth that comes with playing DDR; and these are the ones that understand that the conflicting views of our society is in question.

3. The struggle between mysticism and personality is apparent. And this is not on an individual basis. This is a wholistic view of society. Society's personality drives us to achieve, and this becomes one outlet. Society's personality is what creates the necessity, though it does not exist in all people, it has at one point or another existed. This we cannot deny.

4. Now truth is not absolute. It is quite obvious that there are individual truths that can be benign, but we don't want to focus on these. And that is where the inherent flaws lie; the fact that we, as people, are unwilling to focus on the relativity of truth. Rather than looking for the objective truth, we must look among all of society, and extract the truth that exists in both organic and inorganic material. The fact is that we cannot do this until we realize this inherent flaw. This ties in to the "axiomatic verdacity" that was mentioned in a previous post.

5. Knowing these 4 things, it is clear that there is a contradiction. Now you might ask yourself, how can they all be true? Well, it's actually quite simple. The inherent flaw that exists in the way we view playing DDR is the core subject of this contradiction.

Now I urge constructive discussion on this matter. But, if you have nothing useful to add, please don't bother at all.
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