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MAAAX_himself
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20.  Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| guysitsRez wrote: | | I don't think anyone used it for anything except to get .dwi's, anyway. |
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Trumpetman4eva
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| 21. Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| there is no way they could fine every person who downloaded something. I mean, there are probably tens of millions of people who download songs off the internet. Besides, DDRUK doesn't require you to give an address. |
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tis kelly
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| 22. Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ddrdude1125 wrote: | | there is no way they could fine every person who downloaded something. I mean, there are probably tens of millions of people who download songs off the internet. Besides, DDRUK doesn't require you to give an address. |
No, but as was previously stated they do log IPs. That's how the feds have tracked down mp3 users through the P2P networks. |
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Flarone
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| 23. Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Nyanko Cream wrote: | | ddrdude1125 wrote: | | there is no way they could fine every person who downloaded something. I mean, there are probably tens of millions of people who download songs off the internet. Besides, DDRUK doesn't require you to give an address. |
No, but as was previously stated they do log IPs. That's how the feds have tracked down mp3 users through the P2P networks. |
Don't worry, don't worry. The P2P network busts were all targeted against people SHARING songs; usually in access of 1000. They were, using an analogy to drugs, trying to get the drug dealers off the street, not the users.
| DDRUK.com's Main Page wrote: | Currently this site has had to be placed into a temporary state of closure. This is in direct response to communication from the IFPI in regards to a variety of links and files that were available from this site.
No direct legal action is being raised, and this action has been voluntarily undertaken.
We hope for normal service to resume soon. |
If no action was taken against the site that had thousands of songs illegally available to millions of users (Yes, a fine would constitute legal action), then I really doubt that they will be taking action against the downloaders.
Also note, this is not just wishful thinking; I have not done any downloading off of DDRUK in a long while and only downloaded, at most, 20 files or so. I am the last person they would target, besides those who never downloaded off their website at all.
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kahuna
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| 24. Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Nyanko Cream wrote: | | ddrdude1125 wrote: | | there is no way they could fine every person who downloaded something. I mean, there are probably tens of millions of people who download songs off the internet. Besides, DDRUK doesn't require you to give an address. |
No, but as was previously stated they do log IPs. That's how the feds have tracked down mp3 users through the P2P networks. |
They still have to subpeona your ISP for your contact information if the ydon't cooperate. Many ISPs will not give out any of that info to anyone (RIAA, MPAA, etc.) at this time without a subpeona. Sure they might have someone's IP address but they still have to take legal action if the ISP does not cooperate. This gets really expensive for a large scale bust so they stick to the easy targets who's ISP's don't really mind violating their own privacy policies.
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Pikachelsea
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| 25. Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| arnoct wrote: | Canadians are most likely immune to any fines or lawsuits brought forward as a result of this. The courts ruled that downloading copyrighted MP3s is not illegal. It stemmed from the RIAA (or a similar organization) trying to put forth lawsuits against Canadians, the supreme court told them to screw off  |
Oh, so now we're supposed to believe that Canadians are allowed to download any copyrighted MP3 they want, and Americans aren't? Good one. Talk about wishful thinking.
What a surprise, Canada still sucks! |
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Lefty
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| 26. Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Jeez, noone is going to get a fine for downloading DDR songs.
If anyone gets fined, it would be DDRUK for hosting the SM files. Mean as it may sound, they have it comming if they host files like that without the proper permission.
Its also not economically sound to persue legal action against the DDRUK users, because they would have to prove that any mp3's downloaded from the site were done so illegally for each person that legal action was persued against. The only way to do this would involve searches of a persons home. Anyone who downloaded simfiles for mixes they bought legitimately would be in the clear, because then it consititutes a backup. So if you downloaded all the simfiles for the PS2 Max2 which you already own, it would be considered legal, and there would be nothing they could do.
i guess what im trying to say is the chance of you getting sued for downloading a simfile is probabally less than your chance of getting struck by lightening.
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uouuÉ
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| 27. Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Lefty wrote: | | If anyone gets fined, it would be DDRUK for hosting the SM files. |
dwi, not sm. there's about a 4kb difference
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arnoct
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Lefty
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| 29. Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| annon wrote: | | Lefty wrote: | | If anyone gets fined, it would be DDRUK for hosting the SM files. |
dwi, not sm. there's about a 4kb difference |
lol big diff... I use the Dwi files on Stepmania, so I just think of them as SM files...
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Makilaz
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| 30. Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Nyanko Cream wrote: | | ddrdude1125 wrote: | | there is no way they could fine every person who downloaded something. I mean, there are probably tens of millions of people who download songs off the internet. Besides, DDRUK doesn't require you to give an address. |
No, but as was previously stated they do log IPs. That's how the feds have tracked down mp3 users through the P2P networks. |
they can't track everybody that way. a lot of people have dynamic IPs (ones that change) and some people use proxies.
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Lobster Jesus
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| 31. Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Is it just me or does anyone else have a felling DDRUK might be up again soon?
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DDRNemesis
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ApocalypseKnight
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| 33. Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| DDRNemesis wrote: | | They couldn't fine everybofy who downloaded there either because if you own all the DDR games and downloaded the mps and dwi itss legal because you already own the music and steps. |
They actually would fine us all they are so money hungry it is not even funny. For us to download song should be ok by the people because ddruk encouraged us to do it. |
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Xatu23456
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| 34. Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| MAXANOiA.(period) wrote: | | Is it just me or does anyone else have a felling DDRUK might be up again soon? |
I got that same felling to...
I think it might be. Go to DDRUK they're havin some kind of survey but Im not filling it out cause it requires you to give imformation about you and, you never know it could be some kind of skam to catch the downloaders...
Yes, I'm THAT Cautious about it! |
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TEEX
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| 35. Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Meowzy wrote: | | Nyanko Cream wrote: | | ddrdude1125 wrote: | | there is no way they could fine every person who downloaded something. I mean, there are probably tens of millions of people who download songs off the internet. Besides, DDRUK doesn't require you to give an address. |
No, but as was previously stated they do log IPs. That's how the feds have tracked down mp3 users through the P2P networks. |
they can't track everybody that way. a lot of people have dynamic IPs (ones that change) and some people use proxies. |
Even IF they could track you, how can they possibly sue? On DDRUK's download page, I have never ONCE seen a warning about the downloads being illegal. They have no case if the downloaders didn't even know they were doing anything wrong.
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Tomo_kun
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| 36. Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| TEEX wrote: |
Even IF they could track you, how can they possibly sue? On DDRUK's download page, I have never ONCE seen a warning about the downloads being illegal. They have no case if the downloaders didn't even know they were doing anything wrong. |
Doesn't common sence fall in somewhere?
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Spike
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| 37. Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| TEEX wrote: |
Even IF they could track you, how can they possibly sue? On DDRUK's download page, I have never ONCE seen a warning about the downloads being illegal. They have no case if the downloaders didn't even know they were doing anything wrong. |
Hahaha, yeah that's ridiculous.
First, by your logic the defense would then have to prove that DDR UK is the only site they have ever been to. Because if they went to any other site chances are they'd see some talk about mp3s and how downloading copyrighted material is illegal. Then they'd have to prove that the person doesn't watch the news. Then they'd have to prove that the person lived in a cave, because OF COURSE PEOPLE KNOW IT'S ILLEGAL. Maybe a couple years ago you could say you didn't know, but now? Come on.
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Flarone
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| 38. Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| [RTFAQ] SPIEK wrote: | | TEEX wrote: |
Even IF they could track you, how can they possibly sue? On DDRUK's download page, I have never ONCE seen a warning about the downloads being illegal. They have no case if the downloaders didn't even know they were doing anything wrong. |
Hahaha, yeah that's ridiculous.
First, by your logic the defense would then have to prove that DDR UK is the only site they have ever been to. Because if they went to any other site chances are they'd see some talk about mp3s and how downloading copyrighted material is illegal. Then they'd have to prove that the person doesn't watch the news. Then they'd have to prove that the person lived in a cave, because OF COURSE PEOPLE KNOW IT'S ILLEGAL. Maybe a couple years ago you could say you didn't know, but now? Come on. |
That's what disclamers are for. By not putting on a disclamer, they're taking responsablility for your actions.
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josh loves macho gang
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| 39. Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| i smell a frivoulous lawsuit |
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