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Mr. A
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320.  Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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I went down to Macedonia OH to play ITG. Very neat machine. Played a few songs: Lemmings on the Run, Da Roots, and Anubis.
Anubis is probably my favorite, the others are good too. I liked it. More music and better steps would be an improvement.
The interface is very clean, lots of options, and everything seems to work very well. Seems to be higher resolution and image/sound quality then DDR Ex.
Oh, and man I had some trouble with the mines.... X_X |
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Rancidfish
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| 321. Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:52 am Post subject: Re: no |
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| dukcw0rm wrote: | | Tsuri wrote: | | You obviously can't handle the difficulty of the newer dance games out now... so just give up and stay with DDR... and get out of the ITG topic! |
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I love ITG and I can't pass most 11s, and I don't care, so screw both you guys, I'm sticking right here. ItG isn't just about the difficulty, and elitists piss me off in any community. | dukcw0rm wrote: | | You see, if you're an elitist in several musical genres including hip hop, you'd most definitely know that Hysteria is NOT hip hop and because some people think it is, it's giving a bad name to hip hop. |
Well, like I said, I don't like elitists. Additionally, I quite like Hysteria, so I don't see how it could be giving a bad name to anything. | Rancidfish wrote: | | Healing Vision and a few of the Trip Machines |
| dukcw0rm wrote: | | You're semi right here. Yes, Healing Vision and a couple Trips COULD be called Melodic DnB, they are very misrepresenting. The ratio of DnB to Melodic DnB in real life is probably around 30:1. Again, showing people that all DnB is happy sounding, melody driven music. Which it isn't. |
Healing Vision doesn't sound happy at all. Also, can you name a single D&B track in ITG that couldn't be called "Melodic D&B"? Tension and Infection sound much more melodic than Era, and Hand of Time sounds a lot more melodic than Healing Vision. | dukcw0rm wrote: | | That's what makes it fun. The competition. I enjoy competing against people. Then again, that's just my nature. Perhaps you don't like competition? |
I focus a lot more on bettering myself. I don't particularly care about being better or worse than other people. (When I make comments to that effect, it's usually playful joking.) I've only entered one DDR tournament, because it was local so I thought I'd be good enough to qualify. I got second place, and I was quite surprised that I did as well as I did. However, I'm more proud of the improvement that I've made since then than the accomplishment I made at the time.
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Cutriss
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| 322. Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| Chibi_Sven wrote: | | technically, downloading the sm files w/ mp3s is illeagal, but so are all the DDR arcade machines. |
Technically, murder is illegal, but so is jaywalking.
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Aaron_Kwok
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| 324. Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:17 am Post subject: Re: Itg! |
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| dukcw0rm wrote: | | veganrick wrote: | This is the first tiem I've ever heard of ITG, and I'm excited. I want to play. Anyone know if this is coming out for PS2, GCN or another console?
Does anyone have any websites to other DDR "fakes." meaning...other dance games? Are there others for the consoles. I know there's MC Groovz for GCN...
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Yes, if all goes as planned, it should, eventually be released on home console(s). I know PIU is on PC. Not sure if it's on any home consoles though. |
Actually, I think ITG will only be coming to the PC is it ever comes out, from what I've been hearing. Though, I wouldn't mind a ITG for PS2.
And, no, PIU is just for the PC, as far as I know. I could be wrong, though.
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Rancidfish
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| 325. Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Itg! |
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| Aaron_Kwok wrote: | | Actually, I think ITG will only be coming to the PC is it ever comes out, from what I've been hearing. Though, I wouldn't mind a ITG for PS2. |
| Plaguefox wrote: | | There is a console version of In The Groove in production. |
You've been hearing wrong. In fact, I've heard nothing of a PC release of ItG, but they've been tossing the word "console" around quite a bit. | Aaron_Kwok wrote: | | And, no, PIU is just for the PC, as far as I know. I could be wrong, though. |
| cj_iwakura wrote: | | Correspondance from Andamiro USA reportedly states that Exceed's getting localized sometime in the Spring; at least for PS2. |
PIU is on PS2 in Korea, and soon to be on PS2 here. However, there are currently only PC versions of PIU available in the US. Also, PIU may be coming to XBox as well.
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dukcw0rm
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| 326. Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: no |
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[quote="Rancidfish"] | dukcw0rm wrote: | | Tsuri wrote: | | You obviously can't handle the difficulty of the newer dance games out now... so just give up and stay with DDR... and get out of the ITG topic! |
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| Rancidfish wrote: | | I love ITG and I can't pass most 11s, and I don't care, so screw both you guys, I'm sticking right here. ItG isn't just about the difficulty, and elitists piss me off in any community. |
Dude, chill out, I wasn't making that comment towards you, in fact, I didn't think you were wining at all. I thought we were just discussing the diffs betwinxt DDR and ITG in a civil maner. But there are a bunch of winers though it seems, as time goes on and more people play, there are less winy posts. Guess it IS a good game after all, eh guys? | dukcw0rm wrote: | | You see, if you're an elitist in several musical genres including hip hop, you'd most definitely know that Hysteria is NOT hip hop and because some people think it is, it's giving a bad name to hip hop. |
| Rancidfish wrote: | | I quite like Hysteria, so I don't see how it could be giving a bad name to anything. |
You're not understanding what I mean by "give it a bad name". You see, I like Hysteria. It sounds good and the steps are fun. But it misrepresents hip hop. You see, people like you assume that Hysteria is hip hop, which it isn't. Thus it does give hip hop a bad name. | Rancidfish wrote: | | Healing Vision doesn't sound happy at all. |
Yes it does. | Rancidfish wrote: | | Also, can you name a single D&B track in ITG that couldn't be called "Melodic D&B"? Tension and Infection sound much more melodic than Era, and Hand of Time sounds a lot more melodic than Healing Vision. |
You just spout a couple of specific examples, I'm talking about in general. And, yes, I can name a single D&B track in ITG that couldn't be called "Melodic D&B". But anyways, this is WAY off topic. Lets just keep it simple and say ITG completely pwns DDR.
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dukcw0rm
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| 327. Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: no |
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| dukcw0rm wrote: | | dukcw0rm wrote: | | Tsuri wrote: | | You obviously can't handle the difficulty of the newer dance games out now... so just give up and stay with DDR... and get out of the ITG topic! |
Word. |
| Rancidfish wrote: | | I love ITG and I can't pass most 11s, and I don't care, so screw both you guys, I'm sticking right here. ItG isn't just about the difficulty, and elitists piss me off in any community. |
Dude, chill out, I wasn't making that comment towards you, in fact, I didn't think you were wining at all. I thought we were just discussing the diffs betwinxt DDR and ITG in a civil maner. But there are a bunch of winers though it seems, as time goes on and more people play, there are less winy posts. Guess it IS a good game after all, eh guys? | dukcw0rm wrote: | | You see, if you're an elitist in several musical genres including hip hop, you'd most definitely know that Hysteria is NOT hip hop and because some people think it is, it's giving a bad name to hip hop. |
| Rancidfish wrote: | | I quite like Hysteria, so I don't see how it could be giving a bad name to anything. |
You're not understanding what I mean by "give it a bad name". You see, I like Hysteria. It sounds good and the steps are fun. But it misrepresents hip hop. You see, people like you assume that Hysteria is hip hop, which it isn't. Thus it does give hip hop a bad name. | Rancidfish wrote: | | Healing Vision doesn't sound happy at all. |
Yes it does. | Rancidfish wrote: | | Also, can you name a single D&B track in ITG that couldn't be called "Melodic D&B"? Tension and Infection sound much more melodic than Era, and Hand of Time sounds a lot more melodic than Healing Vision. |
You just spout a couple of specific examples, I'm talking about in general. And, yes, I can name a single D&B track in ITG that couldn't be called "Melodic D&B". But anyways, this is WAY off topic. Lets just keep it simple and say ITG completely pwns DDR.
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Chibi_Sven
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| 328. Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:26 am Post subject: owns |
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I'll second that "Owns DDR" coment but I'm not sure if I appreciate the obvious bump. Just out of curiosity, what is the D&B track?
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disco_bombing
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| 329. Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'm beginning to prefer ITG over DDR, if only because of the steps. The songs are not as good, and the layout, to be honest, blows, but the steps are very... VERY good. I even like handplants and mines.
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Mr. A
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| 330. Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| What is the deal with handplants? Are they steps where you have three or four arrows on one beat? |
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Fr0sty
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| 331. Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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That's half of what hand-steps are. They can either be 3-4 arrows on one beat OR a a freeze being held with other steps coming that are impossible to play with the feet (like a LR freeze with up and down arrows during that freeze).
ITG isn't that bad but I could only compare it to 2nd mix if only for its songlist. I mean personally, it's fun for the players who want to be challenged but it doesn't have the songs that make DDR what it is in my opinion. Songs don't have to be hard to be fun. Songs don't even have to have great steps to be fun. I like to play It's Raining Men even though I hate the steps simply because... noone else likes to play it. I love playing Cowgirl and pretending I have an imaginary lasso. I love CSFILSM and HVAM. There are huge differences between all of those songs though and that's what I like about DDR- the variety. Playing DDR puts me in a jovial mood and makes me want to keep playing. ITG makes me want to keep playing but only because the adrenaline is still running. Anyway, that's just my view over that...
Also- maybe it's just me but the steps in ITG are different. I'm not talking about physical attributes, but how they fit into the songs. Some steps seem to be there just to be there. If this is the case, then that's not how DDR works. You will rarely see a song with steps that don't fit into the song. If this isn't the case then can someone explain to me what the steps are supposed to follow? The background? The main instrument? The singing? |
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Chibi_Sven
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| 332. Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject: steps that don't fit |
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If you are saying there are no steps that don't have any relation to the song in ddr, then you obviously don't own max 1. Many songs aren't very hard but I have trouble with them because the steps have no relation to the music. Before you bash my abilities I'm talking 7s and 8s when I have done Exotic ethnic, matsuri japan, burning heat, so deep (yes the heavy version), and more parinoias than I care to count. I know I'm not the best but I can easily spot crap steps. ITG had some, that i'll admit, but the patterns are way effing better than DDRs. I agree that it need more music and more variety but I am sick and tired of Naoki songs, so the music on ITG was not just a breath of fresh air, but a tornado sized blast of it. I know it's all just my opinions, but your opinions are also just your opinions.
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| 333. Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:00 am Post subject: Re: steps that don't fit |
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The only problem I have with ItG is the arrow layouts/colors. I honestly perfer Solo's arrows best.
Hey Chibi_Sven, are you from merced? |
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Rancidfish
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| 334. Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: steps that don't fit |
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| Chibi_Sven wrote: | | If you are saying there are no steps that don't have any relation to the song in ddr, then you obviously don't own max 1. Many songs aren't very hard but I have trouble with them because the steps have no relation to the music. |
I never said DDR didn't have crappy steps. I said they've had less and less recently. Also, for every song on DDRMAX that had weird 7-foot steps that didn't make much sense, there was one that had totally awesome steps. Centre of the Heart, Dive, Firefly, Miracle? Twilight Zone, Fantasy, Ghosts, Justify My Love. | Chibi_Sven wrote: | | ITG had some, that i'll admit, but the patterns are way effing better than DDRs. |
No, they're just as unreliable or more so. Some of the expert steps, they obviously just threw in a bunch of 1/16th note sets that follow nothing to make the song harder. It also seems that, much of the time, they're afraid to put 1/16th notes in a lot of Hard songs, so you have lots of hard songs with plenty of potential for interesting 7 or 8 foot steps, but they just throw lots of 1/8th note runs. In DDRMAX, they'd at least try, even if they did screw up a lot. A lot of ItG Hard songs feel like I'm playing 3rd mix again. Lots of 1/8th notes, lotso of jumps, not very much fun. | Chibi_Sven wrote: | | I agree that it need more music and more variety but I am sick and tired of Naoki songs, so the music on ITG was not just a breath of fresh air, but a tornado sized blast of it. |
I like Naoki a bit more than Kyle Ward, overall, and DDR also has songs from TaQ, Taka, Good-Cool, and so on. Some more in-house artists for ItG would be nice.
And, as I've said before, given the choice between ItG and DDR, I'd still be playing ItG most of the time. I just think ItG could have been much more awesome than it is.
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Fr0sty
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| 335. Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Errr... examples please Chibi? I'm not sure if you were listing those random DDR songs as examples or as proof that you can pass hard songs. |
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OniCourseMusha
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| 336. Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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I passed Anubis, Disconnected K Hyper, and Hardcore of the North all on Expert in one game!
Hmmmm... next stop Euphora and Vertex?
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Chibi_Sven
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| 337. Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:46 am Post subject: songs |
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No I don't live in merced. I have family in that part of cali and I was visiting them for christmas. They live in los banos.
The songs I listed were songs that I can pass regularly (I've gotten As on nines but no AA)
To tell you the truth I don't have a list of crap songs. I was just going through all the songs I didn't have grades on max 1 and ended up getting pissed and walked off.
As for the music, I believe we are agreeing in the most volitile manner possible. But our tosses at eachother are keeping this thread active so I suggest we keep at is.
On ITG I mainly played Hard and mainly stayed away from expert so I can' speek for, say, that 12 footer.
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| 338. Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:03 am Post subject: |
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I was actually able to try ITG the other day, since the local TILT got rid of their DDREX machine... and all I have to say is... Wow.
I was thoroughly impressed.
The songs sounded like actual music, not some 1:20 minute happy beat song that you heard the same instruments used in the last 4 mixes.
The steps actually seemed like they were thought out, and placed perfectly. Difficulty wise, I like it. A change from all the same old frikkin fast Max mixes. songs no longer need to be 300 BPM+ to be hard (I.E. Zodiac and Vertex... even though vertex speeds up at the end).
Sure there's only like 70 some songs... but they're all entirely new, and sound nothing like the "previous 7 mixes"... *cough*
I played a few nonstop courses as well, and I like the mod implementation mid song... freaking fun to hear my friend start yelling halfway thru saying, "OMG thats not fair!"... good times.
Anyway, I like where it's going, and I plan on going back ASAP to play again =D |
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It's not a question of better or worse, just different. all though, if they ever try another metal/rock song, I might just have to shove a pointy object in their faces. I think rock can work for DDR (jet world anyone?) but not the unlicenced crap they found. If they just aked me I coulf give the, 3 l;ocal bands that kick major buttocks that would love the opportunity.