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Luigi30
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0.  Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject: Dictionary Error |
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| I found an error in the DDR dictionary. For Beginner, it says that all Beginner songs are 1 step. This is not true, as there are a few that are 2 steps and if I remember right, one of the Maxes or Paranoias is 3 on beginner. Just letting you know. |
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Rychan
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| 1. Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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I believe Dance Dance Revolution was also a 3 on beginner.
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| 2. Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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That entry was made back when DDRUSA and some European version were the only DDR versions with Beginner, and they all were rated 1-foot.
Useless facts: starting with Extreme, the Beginner rating is dependent on the speed of the song.
under 180 = 1, 180-around 250 = 2, above around 250 = 3.
DDR the song is 3 on Beginner because the BPM value given to it is 999, which is the value used by the game to displayed the haywire (numbers going crazy) BPM.
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 3. Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:45 am Post subject: |
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The highest a Beginner song's difficulty can be is a 3. Therefore, beginner songs usually have difficulties from 1-3 feet.
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| 4. Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| St00pidBaka // BluR wrote: | | The highest a Beginner song's difficulty can be is a 3. Therefore, beginner songs usually have difficulties from 1-3 feet. |
Is there any documentation of that fact? Or is it just the fact that there haven't been any Beginner ratings over 3?
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| 5. Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Cutriss wrote: | | St00pidBaka // BluR wrote: | | The highest a Beginner song's difficulty can be is a 3. Therefore, beginner songs usually have difficulties from 1-3 feet. |
Is there any documentation of that fact? Or is it just the fact that there haven't been any Beginner ratings over 3? |
If DDR is rated a 3 for having the haywire BPM going to 999 then Id say yes. I can't think of a single song with a BPM over 1000.
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| 6. Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| dj Larrikin wrote: | | If DDR is rated a 3 for having the haywire BPM going to 999 then Id say yes. I can't think of a single song with a BPM over 1000. |
The BPM counter only has three digits. 
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| 7. Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, there is no beginner song over 3. MAXDOT and Paranoia Respect are only 3s on Beginner.
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 8. Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| VxJasonxV wrote: | | Yes, there is no beginner song over 3. MAXDOT and Paranoia Respect are only 3s on Beginner. |
What he said. ^^
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Cutriss
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| 9. Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Cutriss wrote: | | St00pidBaka // BluR wrote: | | The highest a Beginner song's difficulty can be is a 3. Therefore, beginner songs usually have difficulties from 1-3 feet. |
Is there any documentation of that fact? Or is it just the fact that there haven't been any Beginner ratings over 3? |
Perhaps I wasn't clear when I quoted you. Lemme try again. | St00pidBaka // BluR wrote: | | The highest a Beginner song's difficulty can be is a 3. |
That's what I'm curious about. Currently, you see a rule which states the difficulty of songs, but it could just be coincidence. I don't see how you can definitively state that the highest a Beginner song's difficulty will *ever* be is a 3. Thus far that has held to be the case, but you cannot logically prove that they will *always* be less than or equal to 3 (unless you're internal to Konami  ).
Ultramix 2 could throw this rule out the window. Not only will there be more songs with Beginner steps, but there will be Double and Quad Beginner stepcharts.
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| 10. Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Uhm, Max 300, Unlimited and LoM are 3's on beginner....
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 11. Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I remember that before on the DDRFreak Dictionary it stated that and I've always thought that as 10s on Heavy are 3s on Beginner.
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| 13. Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Cutriss wrote: | | Ultramix 2 could throw this rule out the window. Not only will there be more songs with Beginner steps, but there will be Double and Quad Beginner stepcharts. |
Doubles doesn't have Beginner steps, and I doubt quad mode would either.
But yes, that may change.
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| 14. Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| VxJasonxV wrote: | | Cutriss wrote: | | Ultramix 2 could throw this rule out the window. Not only will there be more songs with Beginner steps, but there will be Double and Quad Beginner stepcharts. |
Doubles doesn't have Beginner steps, and I doubt quad mode would either. |
They will in UM2.
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| 15. Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:52 am Post subject: |
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I havn't seen a 2 foot difficulty in DDR Extreme, but I remember in 3rd mix and DDR USA (PSX) that it had a couple of 2 step beginner songs.
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| 16. Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| EndOfTomo wrote: | | I havn't seen a 2 foot difficulty in DDR Extreme |
321STARS. | EndOfTomo wrote: | | but I remember in 3rd mix and DDR USA (PSX) that it had a couple of 2 step beginner songs. |
I seem to remember that too. I'll have to look later.
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| 17. Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| St00pidBaka // BluR wrote: | | Yes, I remember that before on the DDRFreak Dictionary it stated that and I've always thought that as 10s on Heavy are 3s on Beginner. |
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 18. Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Obviously, it doesn't apply for everything but I used that as an example for songs that have rediculously high BPMs for beginner players. Like my best friend who just started out wouldn't want to play MaxX Unlimited on Beginner since it's at a high BPM value AND it's a 3 and he's only up to 2s.
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