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Alpha 24. Too easy to AA songs?
 
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0. PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Alpha 24. Too easy to AA songs? Reply with quote

I was told that freezes in A24 give much higher dance points than in previous versions.

This kind of makes sense because today i AAed payon oni and Minute waltz (zenos)


Any confirmation of this? and will future releases be the same as well?
I think its kind of cheesy, I want to get the AA because I earned it, not because i got a crapload of OK!'s and non combo steps.

any way you can change this?
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1. PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha! I thought I was getting AAs where I didn't deserve them...looks like I'm not partially insane...
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2. PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed this as well.. Although I'm not sure if it's actually easier or not, it does seem to give AA's a little easier.
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3. PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mukan wrote:
I've noticed this as well.. Although I'm not sure if it's actually easier or not, it does seem to give AA's a little easier.


but only on songs with a lot of freezes
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4. PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A24 is a stupid update, the scoring system is REALLY screwed up, someone must have gotten shot for that. And you're right, if the song has a ton of freezes, the song is stupidly easy to AA.
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5. PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should I upgrade to RC1
or Downgrade to A23

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6. PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They noticed this very quickly on the FFR boards. Someone got 71 mil on Payon and it gave them a AA o_O. But it isn't all freezes because it happened on songs with very few freezes also. And what is this RC1 you speak of joe?
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7. PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"RC1" = Release Candidate 1

Stepmania 3.9 has finished alpha testing and is very near release (release version will be 4.0 I believe). This is good news for skinners, as there will likely be no more metrics changes.
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8. PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the weird scoring still exists in RC1 though. I felt like I got a couple of undeserved AAs.
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9. PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is what the code in the metrics should look like (not the regular metrics, the data metrics)

Code:
GradeWeightBoo=-4
GradeWeightGood=0
GradeWeightGreat=1
GradeWeightHitMine=-8
GradeWeightMarvelous=2
GradeWeightMiss=-8
GradeWeightNG=0
GradeWeightOK=6
GradeWeightPerfect=2


and here's the path to those metrics: C:\Program Files\Stepmania CVS\data\StepMania.ini


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10. PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annon, thats exactly what the metrics say in A24
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11. PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh. then try changing the OK gradeweight to 5 or 4 and see what happens.
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12. PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought marvelouses were 3 DP? OKs have always been 6, arcade and otherwise. everything else looks alright though.
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13. PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if marves were 3 than you could have a results screen that's all marvs and a great and it would be a AAA, and the statement "i've done better, but this was my first AAA on it" would never be true. the marv points always bugged me, so i turned them off.
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14. PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean in actual DDR extreme oni courses, marvelouses are 3 DP E13.gif
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15. PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh. i don't play oni courses
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16. PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea i jus played a hard 12 wich i usually get a c on and i AA'd wit almost the same score i always get. they must have switched the grading system or sumtin. either way it sux.
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17. PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without freezes, you would have to have 80 greats to AA Maxx Unlimited on Extreme, all songs with alot of freezes are like this wether on SM or arcade.
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