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120. PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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OK so I guess we finally have this Extreme Plus figured out. It always got stuck on that 20% music speed bullshiz and it was really annoying. So one day it was stuck on that crap, and I was like "What if I do this?" and I picked Beginner mode. BAM! There was the option to put it back on Normal speed. We never discovered that before because the few people that do play DDR around here play on Heavy, and if you pick Heavy it stays on whatever speed thing it's already on and doesn't give you the option to change it. Yey for me. Long story in a nutshell, dumb people shouldn't be allowed to take drinks into the arcade because they always seem to spill on the pads. disturb.gif
I think it happens if you start on a different difficulty, not just Beginner. I had heard it was only available on Standard, so I dunno.
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121. PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pokemon Trainer Andy wrote:
OK so I guess we finally have this Extreme Plus figured out. It always got stuck on that 20% music speed bullshiz and it was really annoying. So one day it was stuck on that crap, and I was like "What if I do this?" and I picked Beginner mode. BAM! There was the option to put it back on Normal speed. We never discovered that before because the few people that do play DDR around here play on Heavy, and if you pick Heavy it stays on whatever speed thing it's already on and doesn't give you the option to change it. Yey for me. Long story in a nutshell, dumb people shouldn't be allowed to take drinks into the arcade because they always seem to spill on the pads. disturb.gif


Well I'd suggest that someone put a sign on/over/near the DDR Machine that says "To change speed: choose anything BUT heavy mode". And besides, they can always change the difficulty while choosing their songs...
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Well I'd suggest that someone put a sign on/over/near the DDR Machine that says "To change speed: choose anything BUT heavy mode". And besides, they can always change the difficulty while choosing their songs...
Is it between songs or between rounds? I was under the impression you had to select a different difficulty in the opening screens where you're selecting Mode and Difficulty after putting in your credits.
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123. PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, according to the info that circulates on the web about Extreme Plus, you can select the speed when you choose anything BUT Heavy. But once you're on the song selection screen, you're just a couple of steps up/down away from the difficulty you'd really wanna play. Sorry for the confusion.
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Pokemon Trainer Andy wrote:
OK so I guess we finally have this Extreme Plus figured out. It always got stuck on that 20% music speed bullshiz and it was really annoying. So one day it was stuck on that crap, and I was like "What if I do this?" and I picked Beginner mode. BAM! There was the option to put it back on Normal speed. We never discovered that before because the few people that do play DDR around here play on Heavy, and if you pick Heavy it stays on whatever speed thing it's already on and doesn't give you the option to change it. Yey for me. Long story in a nutshell, dumb people shouldn't be allowed to take drinks into the arcade because they always seem to spill on the pads. disturb.gif
I think it happens if you start on a different difficulty, not just Beginner. I had heard it was only available on Standard, so I dunno.



Beginner, standard and ONI are the difficulties that you can change the settings on. I heard that you can only change it on the "Select Difficulty screen", not any other screen.
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125. PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didnt bother looking back on this threa to see if any ones asked this yet but what makes the song list diffrent in extreme plus or is it all the same music from extreme?
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ok, lemme get thsi straight.

some guy got ahold of an extreme cd, and now is going around selling "modified" versions of it, fooling arcades that it is the next mix after extreme.

isnt that illegal?
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Dave(nut buster) wrote:
i didnt bother looking back on this threa to see if any ones asked this yet but what makes the song list diffrent in extreme plus or is it all the same music from extreme?
I think I'll be just as lazy as you and say "Why don't you go back and read the thread?" There are only seven pages, for pete's sake. It won't take you long.
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ok, lemme get thsi straight.

some guy got ahold of an extreme cd, and now is going around selling "modified" versions of it, fooling arcades that it is the next mix after extreme.

isnt that illegal?
Yes, but Konami probably won't ever do anything about it, since the game's not supposed to be over here anyway.
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That and most extreme machines are bootlegs anyway.


Did anyone see hack number 3? Extreme CLEAN?
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Just saw it on Bemanistyle...

And for some odd reason, I don't see that hack making it to that many arcades...
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I e-mailed the seller of that auction back when it was up, trying to find out why White Lovers was considered offensive (I know the answer, but I wanted to see if I could find out the reasoning so that I could challenge it). I was told that it was made at the request of a "large well-known national corporation", so they really didn't know.

My best guesses are that (provided it's legit information) it's either Walmart or Chuck E. Cheese. Walmart already has a few arcades with DDR (and even one with a Pop'n!), but if they decided that they were gonna roll this out nationwide (trying to cash in on the dancing machine craze), they'd probably want to do something like this.

And I'm not sure if I consider Chuck E. Cheese a "large well-known national corporation".
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131. PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got #4, Seiken573 just pointed it out on Aaron in Japan's forums:

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We have a thred talking about it.

I really doubt this is an EXTREME hack, so i dont think its safe to call it #4 yet. The whole machine is fake. GOLD PADS??!
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Susquehanna Valley Mall's Megamix machine broke...


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if ddr extreme machines (legit or not) arent supposed to be over here, then why the hell do they release ddr max, ddrmax2, ddr extreme (for the ps2), and why is there english on the ddr machines??
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if ddr extreme machines (legit or not) arent supposed to be over here, then why the hell do they release ddr max, ddrmax2, ddr extreme (for the ps2)
Because they *are* allowed to sell those here?
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and why is there english on the ddr machines??
Because knowing English is "cool" in Japan.

And there's also the argument that Konami made the game import-friendly so that it could be imported "without their knowledge".

The game (Extreme Arcade) may not be licensed for sale/distribution outside of Japan, but you're kidding yourself if you think Konami doesn't know.
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well i dont understand why they wouldnt release the arcade versions in the us, but they release the home versions...
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dark_teferi wrote:
well i dont understand why they wouldnt release the arcade versions in the us, but they release the home versions...
Because the Konami of America AM devision didn't make money, so they shut it down?
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dark_teferi wrote:
well i dont understand why they wouldnt release the arcade versions in the us, but they release the home versions...


Actually, blame Andamiro's USA operation and their suit against KoA that caused KoA to stop at DDR USA....it's the same reason why you don't see domestic-release home versions of PIU.

I also have a pet theory that, despite DDR losing popularity in Japan, KCET released DDR's 6, 7, and 8 because they unofficially knew that the USA market would buy the machines the Japanese market wouldn't.
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dark_teferi wrote:
well i dont understand why they wouldnt release the arcade versions in the us, but they release the home versions...
Because at the time of the rise of DDR, everyone was forecasting doom and gloom about the arcade industry in the US. None of the arcade ops in the US wanted to buy a machine that didn't mesh with the long-going trend of arcade gaming - fighters and shooters.

Also, licensing the music over here would have been a nightmarish ordeal compared to Japan.
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Actually, blame Andamiro's USA operation and their suit against KoA that caused KoA to stop at DDR USA....it's the same reason why you don't see domestic-release home versions of PIU.
I pretty well debunked this a while back, as Konami won the suits with extreme prejudice.
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I also have a pet theory that, despite DDR losing popularity in Japan, KCET released DDR's 6, 7, and 8 because they unofficially knew that the USA market would buy the machines the Japanese market wouldn't.
Yeah, I think a lot of people see it that way.

By "letting" the machines wander over here, Konami weasels its way out of a pile of international licensing fees for the music.

This is why Konami will never officially acknowledge any US DDR arcade games other than USA Mix - Acknowledging their existence indicates willful negligence of their contract violations.
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