What's the big deal about Maximizer?

Hwoarang137 · Trick Member Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Location: Escondido, CA

So... why do the majority of people I see these days do nothing but sit around and complain about Maximizer? I agree that it's pathetic that the song that should have made "older players very happy" (quote: the pre-release interview with that Konami guy who's hypothetically responsable for bringing DDR over here) is an 8 foot on Heavy and it's Mission Mode Boss step is definitely not up to par with its claims of being the next best Max. It's a dissapointment to all of us that were looking for a 3rd-generation Max or Paranoia (like a step beyond Max. (period) and Paranoia ~Respect~) that could possibly kill us if we seriously attacked it.

But it's really not a bad song. Let's face it... it's a good, fun-sounding song with a good step. The Heavy step is pretty fun, and the Boss step is awesome, 10 foot or not. IMHO the Boss step SHOULD be a 10 footer, because it's really a fairly strong 9 footer with those !@#$ 16th notes. It's been said before, I know, but that makes for the fastest steps in all of DDR. It's definitely harder than Bag or Sakura, and as it's been said in every "what should be a 10-footer" post, 10s are called 10 feet because of their aspect of being a step more extreme than their 9-foot counterparts. Be it the raw speed (or lack thereof), psychotic death runs, logic-defying chaos, or mind-boggling stop-and-go tempo changes, the 10 footers have SOMETHING that sets them on a level above the rest. Maximizer is like that... a full run of the fastest steps ever. Your feet fly at 760 steps per minute in that song, as opposed to LOM's 666, Unlimited's 640, or PSM's 580. And let me tell you something... that's freakin fast. Maybe it's just a stop-and-go pattern as opposed to a solid run, but it took more than a few tries to get that one going when I danced to it.

About the whole "it's not a Max!" issue... I say shut up and deal with it. What makes a song a Max, you ask? Konami says so. That's it. It's not how it sounds, how fast it is, or how hard the step is, it's just that Konami said so. Just putting "Max" somewhere in the title doesn't make it a Max (hense Paranoia Max or Maximum Overdrive not being Maxes). I agree that it sounds nothing like an actual Max, but it has the Max theme of pushing the DDR speed limits to limit. Some people say it's not intense enough, but I disagree. Sure, most of it has the Happy Hardcore feel to rival Waka Laka, but it definitely get an intense feel later on in the song (specifically measure 56 to the end, where the 8th note runs start and are closely followed by that absolutely insane 16th note run to freeze pattern). There's a definite change in tone at that point, and it has enough kick to it to get your adrenaline pumping.

So yeah... I'm done raving now. Maximizer's Boss step has become of one of my favorites, and I play it every time Extreme enters my PS2. So... tell me what you guys think and what your (collective) issue is.
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josh loves macho gang · Trick Member Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Location: w00dbridge

i think this belongs in the USEX thread:disturb:

Septagon · Trick Member Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Location: Kingwood, TX

It is a cool song, but I wish there were more 16th steps to give me a challenge. I can get the 2 sets of them with no trouble at all.
What do you mean by "boss step"?

diddrstrait · Trick Member Joined: 01 Jan 2004

mission 100 steps. there are a few more 16ths and a lot more steps in general compared to the heavy steps.

xBlah · Trick Member Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Location: Fridley, MN

I honest to god enjoy the 'boss' steps. I like the song. Yes, it's a Max because Konami said so. Is it a *remix* of Max 300? No. I have yet to play the heavy steps (I DO have a life, so I have yet to unlock it.), but I'm sure they'll annoy me - my honest opinion is that Konami did it this way so that people wouldn't doggy about them making another Sakura, and all the whining that came along with it as to whether it's a ten or not.... therefore boss steps that go unrated.

Eh. Basic run-down:
The Song: Awesome. Love it. +
The Heavy Steps: No matter what they are, they should be either the standard steps are non-existant. -
The Boss Steps: Perfect. Love 'em. But they should just be the heavy steps. 2/3 +, 1/3 -
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Johnny D · Trick Member Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Location: Yuma, AZ

I also like it, but it would be awesome if they slowed it down and then work its way up faster but ten the song would have to be longer...
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Gemini_kid · Basic Member Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Location: New Jersey

I have no problem with the song at all. I think that its a very good song. Go West on the other hand......

tekkie · Trick Member Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Location: Albuquerque

xBlah · Trick Member Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Location: Fridley, MN

Nightime · Trick Member Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Location: anywhere else

It does have the trappings of a MAX song. That semi-climatic intro, the pure funness of the steps, even if they're not that hard, that "freeze jump to stop" in the middle, and the hella-long run at the end.

Anyone who says those boss steps are not 10-footers is obviously using a D-Pad, because of the misplacement during the freeze arrows if your choreography is off. As for the speed issue, let's face it. Too many people were complaining that "10 footers are only WAY fast, or WAY slow" (Thanks for spoiling it for those of us who LIKE those).

Sakura is faster tempoed, but Maximizer is more misdirectional, and ultimately, faster-paced. Though it doesn't quite push as much voltage as, say Outer Limits (which IMHO, is harder than Sak or bag anyways). So it's an "easy 10", but a 10 IMHO nevertheless. Just not to the degree we were really looking for (Something to take our "we've played PSM/TloM for 2 years now, and are looking to push to... about that hard still).

Packing voltage in a 190 BPM stage was a good idea, and should have been exploited in it's stepset a little more. Maybe some triplets like that in the middle. The end should play (IMHO) kinda like the way "Highs Off U" and "true... (radio edit)" have those 3x 1/16-notes during their runs... Sticking some of that in the end, first every 8 beats, then every 4 beats, and maybe then a measure or two solid-packed at the end (during the part that looks like the "Afronova" pivot, you know...). THAT woulda done it.

Sephiroth Clone#1 · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:07 am Post subject:

The songs ok, the first time i seen it was on the mission mode....Oh yeah Do you get anything after beating mission mode??
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pooface · Trick Member Joined: 27 Sep 2004

Personally, I think Maximizer is a pretty cool song with pretty fun steps on heavy. And really, who even pays attetion to the feet anymore anyway?

Pakachu · Trick Member Joined: 16 Dec 2003

i AAA that song on heavy.
i like the song but the arrows are just too easy.
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3DR · Trick Member Joined: 18 Jul 2004

Hmm, who cares? Just play the damn song and enjoy it.

Edit steps for it if you think it's too easy, it has the potential to be harder than any previous max...

I've edited it and made it an effective (11).
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diddrstrait · Trick Member Joined: 01 Jan 2004

SO! loves Electroplankton · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:00 pm Post subject:

I find the boss steps quite hard. Definetely a 10, it's harder than Sakura. Oh yeah, let's not forget...

IT HAS THE FASTEST NON GALLOP STEPS IN THE GAME NOT ALL OF WHICH ARE JACKHAMMERS

diddrstrait · Trick Member Joined: 01 Jan 2004

it's funny...if you look back in the extreme thread I was the first person to mention that, and now everyone is making sure to point it out =P

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figgy20000 · Trick Member Joined: 16 Feb 2004