more then 10 feet?

[NAOKi SYNDROME]

Hmm, PSM0 is an 10.9 because... 11 usually spells impossible.
But I would say nothing reaches 11 unless it's going to be on 4 pad mode and lives up to the crazy standard of the typical SM 11.
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[Liquid Zero]

The only song that would warrant an 11 ranking is PSMO.

MaxX Unlimited, Legend of MAX...naah. I find them 10-footer worthy, mainly because they aren't unprecidently difficult to even pass when you look at PSMO's standards.

I'm unsure about MAX.(period), but if it were an 11, it would be the equivalent of Sakura being a 10: meaning it would barely pass as being in that ranking.

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[3DR]

Look to the ITG ten-plussers...
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[Legend Of Zash]

LoM should be a 10 footer. It's really not that hard. PSMO is probably the only song that actually deserves to be a shinning 10. Not because it's hard necessarily, just because it's so damn tiring.
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[Hwoarang137]

Here's my thoughts on the topic:

Bag and Sakura are 10s because of their "Extremeness" per se. Bag is a decent 9 footer crunched down to 65 BPM, making it extremely hard to read and a step beyond a regular 9. Sakura is a 10 for the opposite reason- raw speed. It's maybe a 9 foot, but then it's doubled in tempo plus a long freeze to a stop plus a slow section. Now, compared to the "real" 10s as they're referred to, they're nothing but a warmup. But they're definitely a step above the average 9.

Max 300 is what you could refer to as a "basic 10." It's fast a tiring, way above the hardest 9 foot song, but not technical in the slightest. Paranoia Survivor is more technical, and less tiring IMHO, so the two of them come up about even.

MaxX Unlimited is the odd one out. I think it should be a flashing 10 (who the heck came up with "shining" 10?!), because it's just as tiring (if not more) than 300 and Survivor but also is very technical, chock full of tough rhythms, fast jumps, and Chaos beaten only by songs like So Deep or Bag.

The Legend of Max is probably the bottom range of a flashing 10. The technique is somewhere in between 300 and Survivor, centering more around fast jumps and recovering from the fast jumps than actually putting variation into the death runs. I believe that Unlimited is harder than LoM, but LoM still deserves the flashing 10 rating and that it's still a pain in the butt.

Paranoia Survivor Max is easy enough. It's hard. Survivor is hard as it is, but adding a little bit of Chaos with the slowed freezes and the slowed post-death run section, another 20 BPM, and a whole other section after the death runs makes it ridiculous. I think it takes the cake for the top flashing 10 on Heavy. On Oni, I really think it deserves a class of its own. It's just so far above LoM and it's own Heavy step.

As for the home version-only steps... Paranoia ~Respect~ is in a similar spot to Unlimited. It's got a good portion of technique and the random stops and quick restarts add another level of difficulty to it, although it doesn't require nearly as much endurance as Unlimited or maybe even 300. It does, however, have the nastiest-looking (and ALMOST the nastiest to dance) death run section in all of DDR, and that includes PSMO. I mean... doublestepping at 300bpm... wtf?!

Max. (period) is damn hard. IMHO it's Max's answer to PSM... it's Oni step is really tough and well deserving of a flashing 10 (although it's much harder than PSMH), and it's Heavy step could definitely go toe-to-toe with PSMO for more than 10 rounds (for those of you who don't know, Period's Heavy step is harder than it's Oni step, but they're both designated flashing 10s). The Heavy step is tiring with lots of long runs, and it's got tricky rhythms, crazy runs of fast jumps, a stop and slow section (although the slow section is the 180BPM Paranoia tribute). The fact that it reaches 600BPM is simply disgusting (not to mention unreadable). On Oni it's just another typical 10 foot middle-of-the-song-section, but on Heavy it's one long stream (which amounts to a 16-measure death run at 300 BPM with 2X arrow speed). While Period Heavy's stream doesn't quite add up to PSMO's, it's Voltage and Chaos win by a long shot. By that logic, Period Heavy also gets the 11 designation in my book.

And just for the record... I've SDGed both Sakura and Bag, gotten under 20 greats on Max 300 and Bag, AAs on Unlimited, PSMH, LoM, and PSMO, a AA on Paranoia Respect, an A on Max Period Oni and a lovely E on Heavy simply because I can't read 600BPM.
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[shin akuma]

juz wanderin'...can any body do any of teh 15 step songz( ) on ITG? if so den & 2 ya...but i do have teh agreee that max 300 'n' max unlimited do require alot of endurence...hell, i benn at it 4 five yearz 'n' have built alot of endurance but still dun got enough
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[Chipp]

PSMO should stay a 10 footer

[Pakachu]

Paranoia Survivor Max oni is my hardest song. it feels like a higher ten footer.
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[D-DREX]

LOM should definently not be more than 10 feet. It is difficult only because of its light speed. Otherwise its an easy song with simple steps.
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