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Disillusioned Trick Member
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0. Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:51 pm Post subject: What's the difference between Max 300 and Maxx Unlimited? |
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For some reason, every time I go and play, I'll listen to Max 300 and then Maxx Unlimited and they sound very alike. I've only played Max 300 once, but I've played Maxx Unlimited 5 times. Is there any major difference between the two besides step patterns? _________________
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Trick Master Trick Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2002 Location: Riverside, CA |
1. Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, there is a huge difference. Like the jumps the freeze and the huge runs. Further more it is longer. Why don't you kust check the step charts. |
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Mart Trick Member
Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
2. Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Well, of course, step patterns are different, but I'd have to say that the approach you need to have for MaxX is quite different from 300. MaxX is by far more technical, whereas 300 doesn't have that much hard technical spots (no crossovers, no faux-gallops, just some faux-triplets (that's how I consider them) and lots of helluvafast stream (see: 16th note runs of V Oni)).
In MaxX, you'll have quite a nice array of faux-gallops (with a rhythm similar to the beginning of So Deep heavy) mixed with freeze arrows. After the bunch of freeze arrows, you'll have a series of non-following faux-gallops, a short helluvafast run, then STOP!... As for the rest, you'll need much better reading than it is required for 300.
Major difference between 300 & Unlimited: hard technical spots. _________________
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crazed1 Trick Member
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3. Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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if u r talking about the music in Max Unlimited it slows down and speeds unlike Max which is fast all the way through the song. |
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TylerC Trick Member
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Location: Fort Wayne, IN |
4. Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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crazed1 wrote: | if u r talking about the music in Max Unlimited it slows down and speeds unlike Max which is fast all the way through the song. |
Yep, and Maxx goes up to 320bpm. Max300 stays at 300bpm. _________________
I have been playing DDR for about 6 months now. I can pass all 7s, 8s, and a lot of 9s(not all though). 10s: 2-Sakura and Paranoia Survivor
Heavy AAs: 32. Most recent: Mahou No Tobira
Way better at Stepmania, have about 300 heavy AAs, 500+ AAAs |
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diddrstrait Trick Member
Joined: 01 Jan 2004
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5. Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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as far as the composition is concerned, they use a lot of the same sampling and synth sounds, though maxX unlimited is a bit more epic with it's "sorrow song" style while max 300 is brutal and tribal sounding. they both use the same melody in the beginning, but from then on they are very different beasts.
as far as gameplay goes, the second half of maxX unlimited is no problem for me, but the very beginning (which is like a sorrow song on crack as I always say) messes me up big time. I've passed maxX unlimited 4 times...once with a B. I've passed max 300 consistantly with well over 400 perfects and an A rating for about a month now. MaxX is way harder...I think it is even harder than the legend of max, but that's me. |
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Tekked Trick Member
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Location: Enigma 100% |
6. Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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As a comparison of the steps, MAX300 is much easier and requires for the most part only stamina. Really, its only a lot of 1/8 streams. MaXx Unlimited, however, is like a combination of So Deep steps, Drop Out steps (on steroids), freezes, and just plain hard disjointed steps.
And yes, I agree MAX300 is more hardocore and tribal while MaXx is more epic. _________________
Just because it makes sense...does that really make it true? |
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_the_legend_of_bag_ Trick Member
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7. Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Syncognition wrote: | the second half of maxX unlimited is no problem for me, but the very beginning (which is like a sorrow song on crack as I always say) messes me up big time. |
Really? The second part kills me. I guess it's a combination of the speed and the fact that I'm ready to pass out after the freeze. _________________
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Verified Trick Member
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Location: Behind You! |
8. Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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The title caught me offguard...
MAX300 required MASSIVE amounts of stamina.
While *IMHO* I think MaxX Unlimited requires mure *cough* skill. _________________
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TripleForteSquared Trick Member
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Location: Freakmont |
9. Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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One is hell and the other is more hell. Which one has more hell...well, you'll just have to determine that for yourself _________________
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Emporer Z Trick Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado |
10. Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:58 am Post subject: |
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If the Maxes could talk:
Max 300: "Can you survive the stream?? Where are your feet now b*tch?!"
Maxx Unlimited: "Jump b*tch! Jump!" "Take that stream!" _________________
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PureBlue Trick Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: The Candy Kingdom! |
11. Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:02 am Post subject: |
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4 differences:
1.Maxx Unlimited is speed trance, while MAX300 is ethnic techno
2. Max 300 has one slowdown and 1 stop, while MAXX UNLIMTED has 2 slowdowns and 1 stop.
3.MAX300 has a steady flow which requires stamina, while MAXX has a very unsteady flow that requires both skill and stamina.
4. Maxx is faster than MAX300. |
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corporatesatan Trick Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA |
12. Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Is there any major difference between the two besides step patterns? |
Uhh...about 20 bpm. _________________
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[sync] Trick Member
Joined: 18 May 2004 Location: where am i again? |
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Disillusioned Trick Member
Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Location: Burning AZ |
14. Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Alright, I get it now. Funny concept. You know, 300-600 bpm. Being a musician, when I first heard about that I was like whoa. Because 600 bpm is 10 per second. That's pretty damn fast. Even 300bpm. That's 5 a second. Crazy. _________________
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Bioclown Trick Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Location: So Deep |
15. Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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How has this thread amassed so many replies? MAX 300 and MaxX Unlimited are different in the way that they are two different songs! _________________
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diddrstrait Trick Member
Joined: 01 Jan 2004
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16. Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Disillusioned wrote: | Alright, I get it now. Funny concept. You know, 300-600 bpm. Being a musician, when I first heard about that I was like whoa. Because 600 bpm is 10 per second. That's pretty damn fast. Even 300bpm. That's 5 a second. Crazy. |
that's just the scroll speed. I wrote a drum cadence for max 300 that's at 150, which you'll notice is the quarternote beat the bass drum plays. max 300 at 150 with 16th note steps instead of 8ths would be a lot less scary looking, and would also be a lot harder to read.
an interesting little nugget of info though, a lot of drumlines have their music written at double tempo because of complex rhythmic patterns and the fact that no one wants to look at something with 32nd note triplets and dotted patterns involving 64th notes, much less take the time to write them.
(note: I'm not really a drummer...just did indoor drumline in high school. I compose and play trumpet, so I am not sure how accurate that info is. my drum corps friend told me all of that).
I'm done being off-topic now XD |
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PureBlue Trick Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: The Candy Kingdom! |
17. Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:32 am Post subject: |
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[sync] wrote: | wow this is an interesting one...MaxX if a beast on heavy mainly cause the steps are um...HELL!! MaxX is technical very much forcing you to follow a very fast rythm while 300 tries to murder your legs...yeah. oh!! i forgot theres more tempo changes in MaxX to while 300 only goes to 0(zero) and picks up to 300 again for the rest of the song, MaxX has (counts for a sec) 6 tempo changes if i am correct look the first tempo change is to 280 but its too fast for you to even realize it then it jumps back to 300 then slows down again to 140 or 150 i cant really detrmine which then it jumps back to 300 and slows down again then stops (zero) and picks up to the breakneck speed of 320. i think whoever made the stepcharts was seariously smokin sumthin cause on light that song is still insane, to a light player who just passed 300 like its nothin. so there, thats my 2 cents |
Actually, MAX 300 slows down to 13.476 bpm, then goes to 0. Then goes 310.2 for the rest of the song. |
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DJX Trick Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2003 Location: CA |
18. Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:51 am Post subject: |
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PureBlue wrote: | MAX 300...310.2 |
Wait...what? I've never seen any stepchart that indicates Max 300 speeding up, and I've certainly never noticed it... _________________
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figgy20000 Trick Member
Joined: 16 Feb 2004
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19. Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Trick Master wrote: | Yes, there is a huge difference. Like the jumps the freeze and the huge runs. Further more it is longer. Why don't you kust check the step charts. |
90% of people who read the title of this thread were too lazy to read the first post or too stupid to understand it. Please read it before posting. |
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