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100. PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syncognition wrote:
I've never had the pleasure of playing with CFs, but I would assume that the Super Joy Box dual adapter or an ems usb2 would work. I have heard of timing issues with CFs in general (a lag because of the incredible amount of power a CF requires)...but that can be adjusted for by messing with the global gap. I forget what message board I saw it on, but it's around somewhere. I think most people that do end up having to adjust for a lag go into the stepmania.ini file and adjust the GAP by .5 seconds or so. depends on how bad the lag is (if there is one at all...like I said I've never used CFs).


I recieve the same lag problems, but its like if i press an arrow perfectly it will either be a great or good. So i should just modify the gap on SM by .5? Or maybe more? Also while im playing. If i try to step on two arrows at the same time, they begin going wild and act as if im pressing both of them repedidly extremely fast. However once i remove one foot from one arrow they stop.
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101. PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you put in the up start select code? that would most likely fix the problem with the super dual box. install the drivers that came with it if you want to, I haven't seen any difference in performance with or without them, but I don't have CFs...

mess with the gap until you are to the point where it feels most accurate...I really don't know exactly how out of sync the CFs will be with the computer, and it may depend on what sort of usb support you have (as in the lag may be greater is your usb is less than v2.0). fiddle with it until it feels right.

report back with whether or not it works out for you. if it does, share your settings please. I'll credit you as a CF tester E13.gif
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102. PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I'm about this: | | close to setting up the controls up, but one little problem.

When I try to Add the controller, but it said 'Gameport or gameport driver are not properly configured. Go to Device Manager. So I go there, but I have no idea what to do...

Does this also happen for USB ports? If so, what do you do?
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103. PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this does not happen with USB ports, as USB is typically hot-swap hardware that has the drivers built in. see if you can PM pantera and ask him to send you some drivers or something...I really don't know how else you can get it properly configured. I know what's wrong, I just don't have the software to help you out. I believe he has this setup and may be able to assist you with it.
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104. PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmkay. Thanks Synco.
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105. PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syncognition wrote:
did you put in the up start select code? that would most likely fix the problem with the super dual box. install the drivers that came with it if you want to, I haven't seen any difference in performance with or without them, but I don't have CFs...

mess with the gap until you are to the point where it feels most accurate...I really don't know exactly how out of sync the CFs will be with the computer, and it may depend on what sort of usb support you have (as in the lag may be greater is your usb is less than v2.0). fiddle with it until it feels right.

report back with whether or not it works out for you. if it does, share your settings please. I'll credit you as a CF tester E13.gif


Ooo me a tester!!! E1.gif Umm ok i think i changed the gap incorrectly for my SM. I went into the CONFIG file which changed when the arrows started, but neglected to change when the song started. My ps2 to USb converter is that MYbox one that is a light blue colored and is see-through. It was that cheap one i found at frys for 10 bucks haha. Im assuming the converter is messed up and thats what is messing up the signal transmitted between the CF and the usb. I tried looking for the Stepmania.ili or whatever u said, but i couldnt find it. Ive tried fiddling in the joy/control menu in SM and that has proved futile. When i click, say, left and right on my keyboard, it registers them fine on the input screen. But when i use my CF the same way, it flashes between Left (menu) and Right (menu) instead of showing them both like it did with my keyboard.....I think i need a new converter lol
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106. PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of that adapter...though I guess it obviously doesn't work if it is doing that with the axis. before you go any further, you should pick up a new adapter. though it is good new if it is at least giving a signal. that leads me to believe that a CF will most likely be somewhat managable with most working adapters once we get the timing figured out. thanks :0)
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107. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got a SUper Joy Box 9 from ebay and my ddr ultramix pad that came with the bundle. the adapter only does the one axis thing. is there any drivers for this adapter that can make pressing 2 arrows at the same time possible?

to see what adapter i'm looking it's on ebay under xbox to pc converter. too lay too put up link. sorry laugh.gif
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108. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you please read the rest of the thread before posting? as I've said, no one here has tested Xbox adapter setups with stepmania extensively to know what adapters are reliable. as of now, there are none to my knowledge. I've said many times that I know absolutely nothing about Xbox USB adapters. I would assume that the vast majority of them are like radioshack adapters in the sense that since they are USB devices, there are no drivers that you can use to fix the problem because the problem lies in the hardware itself (USB is a hot-swap prehiphral format, meaning that drivers are usually built into the device).

sorry if I came off as rude, but this question has been asked before and has been met with the same response each time: no one knows for sure what adapters work for Xbox pads. if you would like to buy some different adapters and test them, there are some tips I have. if an adapter from a particular brand does not work, do not expect a different model from the same brand to work. instead, see if you can find an adapter to try that is made by a different company. you should also do some research on different boards and email the tech support at stepmania to ask if they know of any working Xbox->USB adapters. that's all i can think of for now.
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109. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok sync, that sounds good. I guess im gonna get a new adaptor. Any recommendations on which ones u think will work best with my CF?
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110. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alrighty, I'd say try an EMS USB adapter or a super dual box (available off of Ebay or from lik-sang). I'm sure that the EMS adapter works with CFs, and I would assume the super dual box does too...but I'm not sure how well. there have been many reports of lag with the EMS and CFs, but if you are willing to tinker with your global gap setting in stepmania, go ahead and get one of those.
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111. PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I kinda just had one of thoes "well duh!" moments. Instead of getting an adapter that supports two controllers, you can get two single controller adapters and hook them up to seperate USB ports (assuming you have multiple USB ports). Although the major disadvantage here would be the monetary costs, but wouldn't it be a safer bet in terms of the voltage for the pads?

I've already got my BNS parallel port adapter, and it works great, so instead, I might just by the SmartJoy PLUS and save myself some cash riiight.gif
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I don't know if it would or not. I've never really tried it to see...you're welcome to test it out if you want.
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113. PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*sigh* I just got my bns dx extreme today and i tried it with the emsusb2 adapter that says gun controller and it didnt work. I tried all the things listed on page 2, but still nothing. I went to "test input" in stepmania and it doesnt recognize anything. So the bns dx extreme and the emsusb2 "gun controller" dont work with stepmania on Mac osX. disgust.gif
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114. PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, new request...please state what OS you are using when you talk about a problem with an adapter. most adapters are listed as PSX->PC adapters I believe. I'm pretty sure that the EMS adapters have a switch that say "game" and "PC". I would assume that it wouldn't be recognized by a mac, but I don't use macs. I guess we should create a list of adapters that work with macs as well. sorry if I gave the impression that I had a clue what I was talking about with regards to all operating systems.
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115. PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syncognition wrote:
I don't know if it would or not. I've never really tried it to see...you're welcome to test it out if you want.


The reviews on the Lik-Sang site seem to indicate that two single adapters work fine together...
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116. PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well yeah, i was referring to whether or not they would work with CFs. I've even said before that two single player adapters work if you want to hook two pads up E13.gif
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117. PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my ems usb2 from level six and it said it was compatible with mac so i dont think that is the problem.
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118. PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I have a metal BNS pad and ems usb2. Now before I hook my pad up to my ems usb2, I need to ask, I heard that CF's have lag with ems usb2's, but my question is, does this lag happen with all metal pads period or just CF's?


Oh and to skarqe: It has been proven ems usb2 converters are NOT compatible with macs. If you want a mac compatible converter, get a smart joy plus. Oh, and before Sync mentions it, remember to hold down up + start+ select at anytime when your smart joy plus is plugged in.
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119. PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, thanks...my head is going to explode if I have to say the code again...

I'm pretty sure redoctane metal pads work fine with USB converters. I would assume homebuilts would too, becuase they are wired from a generic playstation controller.
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